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ThEvil0nE
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| evasive wrote: | | I still see a rather large fan on the motherboard. I hope you included that in your plans? |
The board has 4 fans in total (MOSFET & ram). 
The windowed side panel has an 80mm fan too. Wouldn't that be enough?
OR... I can always mod the 80mm to 120mm if needed. Would that work?
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DAVE1
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| Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2006 11:34 am Post subject: |
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sorry, but you can't really call it fanless when you have fans and alot of them  
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ThEvil0nE
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| Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2006 11:48 am Post subject: |
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| DAVE185 wrote: | | sorry, but you can't really call it fanless when you have fans and alot of them |
Darnit! 
Ok.. I'll be editing my project tiltle 
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| Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2006 12:22 pm Post subject: |
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Sweet build and a good looking design! When you're done build more and sell them to us. 
A few thoughts about the mobo: You should be able to mod at least the NB fan with a passive cooler like this one from Zalman.
Also, given the loving care and expense you're already putting into the machine, you could invest in switching the mobo to a passively cooled performance model like the Asus A8N32-SLI. That's all passive cooling, similar performance. Alternatively, just the next Abit step down from the Fatality board is passively cooled as well.
As to the PSU, I don't think you'll find a totally fanless solution that can put out more than 450W. Looked a while back and never found anything. This just might have to be a compromise.
As an aside, I've built a silent PC in recent history, as well as a passively water-cooled unit using the Zalman reserator (yes, I'm a Zalman fanatic!). Passive cooling works really well, but is subject to heat saturation. There's only so much heat that the liquid can move away until it's too hot to take any more. In the case of the Reserator, you can drop the temps in it as much at 10C by fanning it. In fact, Zalman will be releasing a Fan attachment for the Reserator in a few months to do just this.
Given the heat loading, you may find that the stock system runs fine, but that OC'ing even a little forces overheating. If that's the case, you're needn't put all the best OC components into the machine as you might not be able to use them anyway if you stay true to the silent plan.
In my silent PC, I had a pair of OCZ EL Platinums, but after determining I couldn't OC and have the machine stable very long, I swapped them out for a pair of rank-and-file Patriots and put the OCZ's to use in another system.
Just some thoughts as I've spent some time in the silencing world!
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DAVE1
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| Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2006 12:25 pm Post subject: |
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| scottla wrote: | You should be able to mod at least the NB fan with a passive cooler like this one from Zalman.
Also, given the loving care and expense you're already putting into the machine, you could invest in switching the mobo to a passively cooled performance model like the Asus A8N32-SLI. That's all passive cooling, similar performance. Alternatively, just the next Abit step down from the Fatality board is passively cooled as well.
As to the PSU, I don't think you'll find a totally fanless solution that can put out more than 450W. Looked a while back and never found anything. This just might have to be a compromise. |
i saw something fanless for the psu but don't really remeber will look for it i think it might have been 500watts
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Dave, you may be thinking about the Antec Phantom at 500W. Actually, it LOOKS fanless, but does have fans that will kick on if a certain temp level is reached. Might be a reasonable compromise.
This ThermalTake is what I ended up getting and scaled the components to live inside the power constraints. Like it. Think there's a 400W version floating around now, but have no experience with it. |
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can't remeber just went looking for it for a half an hour but can't find it
will keep an eye out though
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| DAVE185 wrote: | can't remeber just went looking for it for a half an hour but can't find it
will keep an eye out though |
I have read a PSU review/round-up and one of them was a fanless. My main concern of fanless PSUs is the additional heat it will generated inside the case. Using one on an insulated case might be more harm than benefit  .
UPDATE...
The drilled a pair of holes for tubing.
The holes drilled on the case are larger than the hard clear plastic placed over it (mounted using silicone clear sealant). Two reasons... 1st - the round clear plastic will protect the tubings from touching the metal case.
2nd - being that the hard plastic is glass like and the drilled hole on the case is larger...
...any light inside the case will beam through the exposed clear plastic making it glow 
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Looking good so far, now frost up those caps and put some icy blue or red leds underneath  |
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ThEvil0nE
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| Tulatin wrote: | | Looking good so far, now frost up those caps and put some icy blue or red leds underneath |
Thanx
I have some questions:
1. What's the recommended corrosion agent or inhibitor (water additive) for aluminum?
2. What type of water do you use? tap water? distilled? or Poland Spring water (which is not from Poland to begin with )?
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