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poiuy223
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 Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2005 5:50 pm Post subject: Re: Crucial Ballistix 1GB Memory Review |
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| Tulatin wrote: | No point? Really. By my recollection, and all of my tests, the TCCD gained a fair bit of speed and a lot of performance by loosing it all to 3's. Let's see you show me 6.5GB/s on 440MHz at 2-2-2-6. you cant.
2 - i'm going by crucial's rating on the modules. these modules are in fact a few months old, and at the time they were being rated for 2-3-3
3- want a testbed? DFI NF4-DAGF -> 3000+ DH8-D0 winchester -> maxtor 80 gb drive etc.
4 - superpi is surprisingly quick about finding errrors, especially in real time. Trust me on that.
Facts are right there staring you in the face, and last i saw, your overclocking was incredibly short winded, with no methodology or test bed listed. All that showed up was some clocks and timings. Granted, even i feel the amount of benchmarks is a bit sparse at the moment (3dmark 01, Doom3 and sysmark will be added to the repitoire soon), the articles are still a dose better. |
ok doc, i moved it here. im commenting on the review so this should be ok right?
1. how bout i show you 8gb/s at 320mhz 2.5-4-3-7? cas3 does nothing but lower performance. it's only because it lets you go a bit higher and gives you a higher cpu speed that raises your memory bandwidth. hope you know that unlike intel, higher amd cpu speed = higher memory bandwidth. btw, it's DDR440, not 440mhz. you'd be god if you ran DDR1 at 440mhz at any timings
2. if you knew anything about ballistix, you'd know that they use all the same chips. so they all run 2-2-2-6. even when it was first announced and released it was spd as 2-2-2-6. thats why it was such a craze when it was first released.
3. nice job on including the hd as a testbed for a memory review  and since when do i not list my testbed? thats the main thing i put on a review. how bout you go back in time and re-read the memory reviews i've written.
4. apparently you have no idea how super pi works. if thats your test for stability, your review is far from reliable. do you really think that all the WR's of <20s 1M are are done with memory running stably? you're testing method is far far far far from trustable.
and lastly, throwing a bunch of words about packaging does nothing for a review. you're not reviewing the box. nothing was mentioned about the IC's used or the PCB, which is what matters. overclocking is simple and straightforward. all the steps are the same. and if you knew about ballistix, you would know that it also runs the following timings...
2.5-2-2-6
3-2-2-6
3-3-2-6
hey you may write better, but if thats what you think people want, then keep on doing it. im just trying to save yourself from being ridiculed on a review that has no knowledge to back it up. hey if you think im bashing, i apologize. if you think you're right, keep on doing what you're doing. im sure the regulars here dont really care about the results all that much. speaking of results, doom 3 is far from memory dependent. thats why i threw it out in my memory reviews
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if you think im bashing and dont want me around to post, i wont. im not bashing at all. im not mad or anything. hey if you guys like it that im not writing, then all the better for you. but im HONESTLY saying that these new memory reviews need help. you're the big boy in charge of this site and im for mine so i know how it feels if there was a review out thats just plain bs. its the chief that gets the slap in the face. im just saying that your little "know it all" reviewer is far from knowing it all, at least for memory. this is the same as asking me to write a sound card review. the best i can do is only come up with some bs to stretch the length. i know nothing about sound so i'll just whip up something. if you think that all the comments by readers are towards the reviewer, you're wrong. everyone blames the person in charge, not the reviewer. so im just warning you beforehand. people may not post to say anything, but they do say everything. |
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Toby B.
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| Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2005 6:20 pm Post subject: |
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I don't know that much about writing reviews or RAM for that matter. BUT whether you want to admit it or not:
| Quote: | | im just saying that your little "know it all" reviewer is far from knowing it all |
That is bashing plain and simple... Should not happen at all, but if it is going to occur it needs to be kept out of the public eye....
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| Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2005 8:09 pm Post subject: Re: Crucial Ballistix 1GB Memory Review |
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| poiuy223 wrote: | | and lastly, throwing a bunch of words about packaging does nothing for a review. you're not reviewing the box |
If that's part of the product, yes you are. I enjoy top to bottom reviews. If its not an OEM product, tell me about the box.
Great review, Tul.
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| Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2005 8:17 pm Post subject: |
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EXCELLENT review Tulatin. Every review that you do, you will just get better, and the best part is that you JUST turned 18. A hardware reviewer for an established site like this one at such a young age. Good Job Tulatin. I have nothing but the utmost respect for Tul.
I think I sniff something stanky though....pardon me.
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poiuy223
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hahaha. you guys are too much. its apparent that you guys like low quality reviews. i guess any review from anyone here is excellent, whether it provides the information or not. well new guy, good luck. you'll more than need it in the reviewing world.
doc, just ban me so i dont even bother posting anymore. i personally think you would be better off just having you and ben review. |
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hehe sounds like someones pissed coz he got fired lol man what a sore loser......leave Tulatin alone. No it wasn't a "perfect review" but even an all mighty review god like yourself had to start somewhere. So all your reviews were perfect??? very doubtful.
It's one thing to correct his review constructively and teach him to do better, but what your doing is rubbing his face in it and trying to make him feel 2 feet tall. Kinda shows what kind of a person you really are. Dude it was Doc who fired you not Tulatin. So go run on the freeway or something if you need to take your aggresion out.
You only have yourself to blame.
Doc says: John was let go not fired per say,,,,No one should be spreading rumors that he is a theif or otherwise simply he owns his site and that is his priority mbhw is mine that is the conflict of interest.
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CAS 3 is used for a boost in stability, and no $%^!@# you're going to find 8GB/s at 320MHz. DDR440, 440MHz - same diff. And while Doom 3 isn't the world's most memory dependant, it does in fact take a hit when bandwidth falls off. Whether or not they were initially released at 2-2-2-6, the modules i have are hard rated for 2.5-3-3-8.
And i've read your memory reviews. I was disappointed. |
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| Quote: | | Thus, I'd have to recommend Corsair's Ballistix to all of you out there looking for some ram to overclock your system to sky high levels with, or something stable and fast to live your every day with. Highly recommended, keep up the good work guys! |
shouldn't it be Crucial???  
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| Ryn wrote: | | Quote: | | Thus, I'd have to recommend Corsair's Ballistix to all of you out there looking for some ram to overclock your system to sky high levels with, or something stable and fast to live your every day with. Highly recommended, keep up the good work guys! |
shouldn't it be Crucial??? |
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