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joshvee
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Because we all know how much better the 4800+ dual core is than the 840 dual core, I think what people really would like to see (I know I would) is a comparison between both these dual cores and their single core counterparts. This will determine if us gamers should make the move to dual core. (I dont think so just yet) Also many people actualy want to know if the dual cores are actualy slower than their single core counterparts for single threaded aplications and games.
If they are indeed slower, which many people suspect, then many people will stick to single cores for now. This I think is far more important and far more relevant to this sites members than a comparison between dual cores.
We want to know weather we should switch to dual core in the first place. (well I do)
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I'm convinced.. anyone for some bank robbing so we can afford one of these bad boys? 
| Quote: | | We spent a week of our time just getting the board to even recognize their own damn CPU, which was more than a mere headache as it sent us back on our schedule by days and wasted many precious man hours just fiddling with the board. Then there were the constant heat issues, which plagued the Intel platform even more, leaving a bad taste in my mouth for the first time. |
| Quote: | | I get a lot of email from people saying how they wish they had this job or how easy we reviewers have it, but they only see the rosy side of the picture not the sixteen hour days we spend sometimes just getting the equipment to function properly. That is not even mentioning the stress we are under to meet NDA dates and get proper and accurate unbiased reviews posted for our readers. |
I've been there and said that. The wishing part..not the part about how its a cake job. 
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Thanks for clearing that up for me chief. 
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One more quick question. How do duallys fare in overclocking? I havent seen any reviews where they have done so (I've only read this review and the one Joshvee pointed out on CNet).
That might also be a factor for some enthusiasts 
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Doc Overclock
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To clarify a point asked,, Gaming at the moment will not get much improvement from Dual-Core technology, but give it a year and I am sure we will see vast improvements in performance as games beging to get written with code supporting Dual-Core technology...For multitasking the 4800+ for once beat the pants off Intel....
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| Doc Overclock wrote: | | To clarify a point asked,, Gaming at the moment will not get much improvement from Dual-Core technology, but give it a year and I am sure we will see vast improvements in performance as games beging to get written with code supporting Dual-Core technology...For multitasking the 4800+ for once beat the pants off Intel.... |
You say that gaming will not get MUCH improvement from Dual-Core technology. Does that mean that the dual cores run single thread programs (such as all current games) ever so slightly BETTER than single cores? coz what Ive seen so far suggests that Gaming at the moment will not only NOT get ANY improvement from Dual-Core technology, but may actualy slightly suffer. Thats why I'd like to see a dual core vs single core review.
Doc Writes: No way is gaming impaired by Dual-Core it is just not fully taken advantage of yet,,,
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Awesome review! Who said your job was cake? Send'em to Florida and I'll flog them with a wet carp!
I'm pretty much sold on the AMD package you reviewed, but since I build a box about every 3 years, my debate will now be how much RAM...? does 2 gig become overkill for my MS Office, Adobe, browser, Photoshop, virus scan, etc... multitasking (don't forget the 35% time used to game)... now I read where June 1 is unrealistic for getting one of these X2's (AnanTech), and maybe Q4 will be the soonest... ARRGH!
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Thanks Derek.... 
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| joshvee wrote: | | Doc Overclock wrote: | | To clarify a point asked,, Gaming at the moment will not get much improvement from Dual-Core technology, but give it a year and I am sure we will see vast improvements in performance as games beging to get written with code supporting Dual-Core technology...For multitasking the 4800+ for once beat the pants off Intel.... |
You say that gaming will not get MUCH improvement from Dual-Core technology. Does that mean that the dual cores run single thread programs (such as all current games) ever so slightly BETTER than single cores? coz what Ive seen so far suggests that Gaming at the moment will not only NOT get ANY improvement from Dual-Core technology, but may actualy slightly suffer. Thats why I'd like to see a dual core vs single core review.
Doc Writes: No way is gaming impaired by Dual-Core it is just not fully taken advantage of yet,,, |
Joshvee the article in this following thread may help a little. From reading this, IMHO HT and DC are totally useless until software catches up and makes use of multiple threads.
http://www.motherboards.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=71507 |
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| joshvee wrote: | You say that gaming will not get MUCH improvement from Dual-Core technology. Does that mean that the dual cores run single thread programs (such as all current games) ever so slightly BETTER than single cores? coz what Ive seen so far suggests that Gaming at the moment will not only NOT get ANY improvement from Dual-Core technology, but may actualy slightly suffer. Thats why I'd like to see a dual core vs single core review.
Doc Writes: No way is gaming impaired by Dual-Core it is just not fully taken advantage of yet,,, |
OK first of all, Damn it man, make your own post. dont add to mine......how rude lol 
Secondly, so your saying an Intel 840EE dual core @3.2GHz would keep up with a 3.2EE single core in single threaded aps? or a 640? Well then again the 840 should beat the 640 even in single threaded programs because the 840 is an EE edition and the 640 is not.
Oh thanks Em I missed that one.
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