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PostPosted: Sun Sep 16, 2012 2:06 pm    Post subject: Harni V8 Atom ION Motherboard Reply with quote

In 2010 I bought a very nice mini-box PC in China, by the name of HARNI V8, with Atom 330, 2G memory, 250G HD, wifi, 4 usb slots, hdmi, VGA, audio in/out, SPDIF, etc, and the most important thing a build-in DVD (later versions of Harni or other mini-PCs do not have DVD player at all crying ).

You can see how it looks like, in the following urls:

http://product.pcpop.com/000273678/Index.html
http://au.alibaba.com/product/405425722-Harni-V8-ION-High-definition-Mini.html

For some ugly reason, the MB got short-circuited and is beyond repair. For more than a year now, I tried to contact (through chinese friends knowing how to argue in mother language) the manufacturer in Beijing (Teket Innovation Technology CO), and other companies around China, with no success. They were unwilling to disclose details of suppliers, or help me get a replacement MB.

Since it is not working, I do not have access to any BIOS information. The MB on it has only some sparse markings, namely:

SUI ML-1, 94V-0, 0950
PART -08 VER:C

The chipset (?) is nVIDIA L905B133 0919B2
S TAIVAN PB8474.S00
MCP7A-IONB2

and the CPU (?)has the following codes on it:
Q842C222
SLG9Y

The MB is like a a mini-ITX but some research that I did trying to identify it there, was unsuccessful. You can see 3 photos of the MB here:

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/75459488/IMG_0137.JPG
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/75459488/IMG_0139.JPG
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/75459488/IMG_0347.JPG

Can anyone please identify it, so I can try to find to replace it?

Thanks,
NIK.os
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 16, 2012 11:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

more like Nano-ITX
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:VIA_Mini-ITX_Form_Factor_Comparison.jpg

I fear you really need to rely on your Chinese friends there. The layout of the board is non-standard with those front ports and rounded corners = proprietary/special build.

It looks like the only option is to ask the manufacturer politely for a replacement board. Given they have a V9 out already there should be some overstock of the V8 left.


(Discs are going the way of the dodo... Both harddisks and opticals... It's all flash and download these days...)

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 17, 2012 1:41 am    Post subject: Thanks for the lead ... Reply with quote

The company that "manufactures" them in Beijing is Teket, and I contacted them over the phone in the past without success. Well, with the info I got today from the moderator "evasive" though, I was able to dig further into the case (I am not that proficient with MB markings you see), that led me to the following websites:

http://www.teket.com/en/motherboard/motherboard.htm

and

http://teket.en.alibaba.com/productgrouplist-209756473/Mini_ITX_Motherboard.html#products

Running through them, I was NOT able to identify the MB of question. Can somebody (who has more experience identifying MBs) please look through them and let me know if the MB is in there?

I will try to contact Teket more decisively this time, knowing they have a website with their MBs.

Thanks for the help,
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 17, 2012 3:26 am    Post subject: Re: Thanks for the lead ... Reply with quote

nk wrote:
The company that "manufactures" them in Beijing is Teket, and I contacted them over the phone in the past without success. Well, with the info I got today from the moderator "evasive" though, I was able to dig further into the case (I am not that proficient with MB markings you see), that led me to the following websites:

http://www.teket.com/en/motherboard/motherboard.htm


which is a list of _retail_ boards available from brands that have a retail miniITX or nanoITX board out there. They are not "manufacturing" but reselling stuff.


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nk wrote:

http://teket.en.alibaba.com/productgrouplist-209756473/Mini_ITX_Motherboard.html#products

which is again a list of motherboards they sell seperately.

nk wrote:

Running through them, I was NOT able to identify the MB of question. Can somebody (who has more experience identifying MBs) please look through them and let me know if the MB is in there?

I will try to contact Teket more decisively this time, knowing they have a website with their MBs.

Thanks for the help,
NIK.os


Key factors to look for: Intel Atom N330 and nVidia MCP7a chipset. They have 4 models matching those specs, listed here:
http://www.teket.com/en/motherboard/intel/ionn3m7a.htm

I checked through both lists to see if your board is in there. There's not a single one even having this layout.

Most likely this is a special design from the layout, the port location, the external power connector, no expansion slots whatsoever, just two places for the cards it actually needs on the underside and last but not least "PART -08" suspiciously sounds like it's only used in their V8 version of this box.

Now, for the other markings:

SUI ML-1/UIL/94V-0 is for the flammability rating:
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20100108200014AANOoTQ

Having found this company gives you a better chance on a replacement but even if you were to get a board seperately, chances are it will be the same price as a new V8 unit...
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 17, 2012 4:12 am    Post subject: Further findings ... Reply with quote

Thanks for looking into it. I contacted again Teket in Beijing (in English) and the communication was limited. I will see if I can resolve anything with them through email.

In the meanwhile,it seems that Harni V8 got an upgrade to the D510 chip:

http://bjguohao.en.alibaba.com/product/316915025-210360237/Intel_Pine_Trail_D510_1_66Ghz_X_2_1Mb_Dual_Core_Mini_PC_GBOX_SZ5002_.html

This company (also in Beijing):

http://company.pakuya.com/contactco/bgtcl63.html

seems to be involved into the manufacturing of the same thing (layout). I hope they can help me better (called, they do not speak a word of english, have to go through friends again), since I found prices for single MBs somewhere (cannot recall where). The range of the MBs they have, can be seen here:

http://bjguohao.en.alibaba.com/productgrouplist-209882699/MINI_ITX_Motherboard.html#products

Went through their MBs one by one, but no luck with the architecture/layout of the one I am looking for.

Can you please (evasive) take a look through the first link, and see if I have more clues through there?

Thanks alot,
NIK.os
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 17, 2012 5:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

the GBOX-SZ5002 outside is the spitting image of the middle harni V8 in here:
http://www.teket.com/en/minipc/harniv8.htm

It's possible they are indeed involved. Let us know how you go.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 17, 2012 3:25 am    Post subject: Eventually ... Reply with quote

... it looks that I got one last showcase sample remaining in this Teket Company in Beijing, and they are willing to sell it to me (either only the motherboard, or the whole box for a bit higher price). After a lot of trouble of this information (model, price, etc) back-n-forth with my friends in Beijing in the middle, it looks like I can have a replacement MB in a couple of months time! lachen

Hope it will be the right one. You never know with the chinese!!!

I will let you know.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 17, 2012 4:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, let's just hope it is the right board so you can start trubleshooting this one without fear for messing it up completely...
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