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PostPosted: Mon Apr 04, 2011 10:21 am    Post subject: Need Advice for First Build (Motherboard, CPU, RAM?) Reply with quote

Hello everyone!

Newbie here who is thinking about making his first attempt at building a gaming PC.

So far I've just been browsing Newegg for various parts and reading reviews. But I'm really aching for some guidance in making sense of all of it.

Just some background info. This is the computer I've had for a few years (my newbish gaming PC once I upgraded the video card lachen ):
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883107397&cm_re=m8100n-_-83-107-397-_-Product

A while back, I purchased a couple of components from Best Buy to upgrade it:

Thermaltake TR2 W0388RU 600W ATX 12V v2.2 Power Supply
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817153114

PNY GeForce GTX 460 VCGGTX4601XPB:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814133326&Tpk=VCGGTX4601XPB

I certainly hope to keep these components in building my PC to save a little money. I would also like to keep the hard drive and disk drive from this PC if that's possible.

Ok, so now to why I'm posting. I'd like some help in finding a good motherboard and CPU (and a case that'll fit it all nicely).

I'm thinking about getting one of the AMD Phenom II X4 CPUs, such as this one (I'd also like to poke around with overclocking at some point lachen):
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103727&cm_re=phenom_x4_965-_-19-103-727-_-Product

Could you suggest a few high quality motherboards, as well as 8gb of great RAM for a system like this? Please forgive all the questions packed into one post. Like I said, I'm a newb, and right now the motherboard is definitely the most mystifying component to search for. crying

I'm hoping to gather all these new components (the case, motherboard, CPU, RAM, and OS) for less than about $600.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 04, 2011 10:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Forget ASUS at the moment, I have just procured an ASRock 890GX extreme4 and so far cannot fault it - it is a good seller too and a reasonable overclocker(if you are on a tight budget for a low end board, their N68-S UCC rocks)... (ASUS are OK, but been getting a lot of DOA components off them recently)... The ASrock board takes almost every brand of DD3 I have thrown at it aprt from some unbranded s**t that went straight back (200 sticks)... I am partial to CorsairXMS3, but if you are overclocking GEIL Black Dragon, GSkill Ripjaw or Corsair VEngance Rock... OCZ were good too, but haven't seen a lot of it about recently.. Remeber on the AMD platform, buy Dual packs, not the triple pack - thats aimed at Intel i7's...

And, I would update the PSU - 650w isn't so great these days, esp with big drives, big video cards and overclocking in mind....
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 04, 2011 12:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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ASRock was originally spun off from Asus in 2002 in order to compete with companies like ECS and Foxconn for the commodity OEM market.


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 04, 2011 1:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So just from some poking around on NewEgg I've done, how does this tentative assortment look?

New Stuff:
Rosewill CHALLENGER Black Gaming ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811147153

ASRock 890GX EXTREME4
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157207

G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231314

AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103727



The components I have bought recently and hope to keep in the build:

Thermaltake TR2 W0388RU 600W ATX 12V v2.2 Power Supply
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817153114

PNY XLR8 VCGGTX4601XPB-OC GeForce GTX 460
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814133326&Tpk=PNY%20GeForce%20460



These are what came with my HP Media Center m8100n, hoping to just transfer them into the new build:

SATA ST350063 Hard Disk Drive

HL-DT-ST DVDRRW GSA-H30L SCSI CdRom Device



If there are any glaring issues with compatibility or if anything would seriously be holding back performance please say so and I'll toss it out. If you have any suggested changes while staying within my budget, I'm all ears. Right now all the new components (plus Windows 7 64-bit) total about $550. I'd like to stay in the $600 neighborhood for buying these new components.

I am a little concerned about what Mr. T said. Would I be pushing the power supply I have with all these components?
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 05, 2011 11:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

As noted previously, the PS looks a bit lean - you got a good deal on it, but when a PS goes it tends to take other hardware with it (CPU/mobo/Graphic/etc.). Suggestions:
SILVERSTONE OP1000-E 1000W Compatible with Core i7 Power Supply $160
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817256043

COOLER MASTER Silent Pro RSA00-AMBAJ3-US 1000W Power Supply $180
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817171049

The ASRock 890GX EXTREME4 has integrated Graphics (?) if you plan on using the onboard graphics, your PS may be OK. But the Geforce GTX 480 would draw more power.

CD Rom is OK, but I think you may prefer DVD Burner, possibly Blu-Ray burner ? (Could always upgrade later).

If your HD is not rated 6/G consider getting one that is (I can't tell what the HD is) at least for primary Drive, it will make a serious difference.

Staying in line with the ASRock choice, I'd consider the very similar (yet no Onboard Video) :
ASRock 890FX Deluxe4 AM3 AMD 890FX SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard $165 shipped.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157208
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