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PostPosted: Thu Dec 31, 2015 7:48 am 
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evasive wrote:
That are very simple logic gates indeed so basically you would not need a driver for the interface, just for the PCMCIA card you insert in there then.

Not quite correct. I've already tried a simplest PCMCIA card (56K modem) - and no any luck in detecting that.

There is a large square VADEM-365 chip in the front-side bay (under the metal cover), if it helps....


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P-n-P or "Plug and Pray" (it works!) did not officially come about until Win 95. Prior to that, the IBM Micro-Channel (MCI) did have semi-automatic setup. But each slot was set and wired differently so as to accept only certain device cards.
For pure DOS, Win 3.1 or 3.11, system drivers have to be executed from the config.sys and autoexec.bat files which link to a program. Typically, the commands were known as "AT&" to unhook or hook a modem, dial and send/receive.
To "unhook" a modem or phone means to activate it and get a dial tone. To "hook" it means to close the session or hang up. Was also referred to as "off hook" and "on hook".
Some common commands: https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/164659

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http://ps-2.kev009.com/pcpartnerinfo/ctstips/40c2.htm

I forgot to ask, are you already putting the card services and socket services in place?

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evasive wrote:
are you already putting the card services and socket services in place?

I don't have any software for this device (it came to me "as is" - no floppies, no CD, nothing but the hardware). Dunno which services I need to put in place - I have no experience with such of readers.
I no need to use that, and may easily throw this away - but it would be nice to get/test it working (just as a part of a vintage computer I am currently reviving).


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 12, 2016 6:24 am 
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A lot of older 'legacy' devices are no longer compatible with Windows since Vista came on scene. But if an older OS version or a Linux version, still may be useful. Same with a lot of expensive programs.
Some manufacturers may still have original drivers and manuals in an archive.. or http://www.driverguide.com/ may have something.
Some devices may be identical or near so of another brand, and the drivers might be compatible.

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Karlsweldt wrote:
A lot of older 'legacy' devices are no longer compatible with Windows since Vista came on scene. But if an older OS version or a Linux version, still may be useful. Same with a lot of expensive programs.

Well, my ancient dinosaur PC is just a 386-33/8, so there is nothing to look to Vista or even Win95, haha! Just a DOS-based drivers (plus Win3.1, if I am lucky enough).

For Linux, hmmmmmm........would be THE Quest to install Linux (especially any modern Linux, LOL) on 386/8....it even can't boot from CD, nor flash stick (it simply has no USB) - I will need to create some boot floppies, aaarrrgh.... Well, perhaps later - when I got plenty of free time to waste over such of unnecessary things. :)


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There still are new 1.44 MB floppies available. But they don't last as well as an optical disk.
You may want to look for an LS120, uses a 120 MB removable disk as well as 1.44 floppies! But needs an IDE port.
You could run an optical drive on that "dinosaur" if the proper commands and initiation files are at hand.
Even an older 80286 model could access a CD, with an adapter port card.
Booting to a CD would not be available, only with later 486 systems. But worth a try, if you can access the disk files. Look for an "autorun.inf" file and read what commands are needed.
USB, not easily set up in older DOS environments. But can be done.
Windows NT 4.0 might set up easily on that system, if you can find a copy. Win 3.11 should work well also.
Windows 95 "B" (1996) or "C" (1997) could be put on the system, but would be slower than trying to walk backward up a hill!!
Been there. Done that.

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 31, 2016 2:34 am 
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First we need to install the framework for PCMCIA, to be able to connect a driver to that for the card that you are testing.

http://superuser.com/questions/168385/h ... ces-in-dos
if this link doesn't work, let me know:
http://www.driverguide.com/driver/detai ... erid=64539

we might have an alternative here:
http://support.lenovo.com/nl/nl/downloads/ds013565

But right now I don't have anything I can run DOS on.

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