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Re: creating bootable usb windows backup recovery usb thumbd

Postby bdub » Tue Jan 12, 2016 9:10 am

so, using the instructions to make a bootable repair thumbdrive, AND formatting the whole thing NTFS, seems to work.. should have tried that first instead of following instructions to a T, where they had me making it fat32.
so maybe I'm on my way. will post more later.

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Re: creating bootable usb windows backup recovery usb thumbd

Postby bdub » Tue Jan 12, 2016 9:46 am

well, two more fails... can't copy an image made to a hdd to the thumbdrive that can be seen from restore boot program... and cant make a new image on the thumbdrive, because windows backup says it is "not a valid backup location"... guessing because it is a "removable drive", as opposed to a "basic" disk, or something else?

seems you can use larger external enclosure with hdd's (or sizable sdd's) in them, why not a thumbdrive!

frustrating.

seems flipping that bit is the key. but gotta find very precise usb chip built into thumbdrive, I guess.
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Re: creating bootable usb windows backup recovery usb thumbd

Postby Roach412 » Tue Jan 12, 2016 12:41 pm

stolen from a Microsoft forum:

- create a directory on your USB drive
- right-click the directory and choose "Share with", "Specific people"
- choose yourself from the list of users and click Share and Done
- in the "Create System Image" menu choose "On a network location"
- now enter the URL for your share (\\your-computer\sharename)
- enter your username and password and click OK

http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/wind ... fca?auth=1

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Re: creating bootable usb windows backup recovery usb thumbd

Postby rascard2007 » Tue Jan 12, 2016 1:20 pm

Roach412 wrote:stolen from a Microsoft forum:

- create a directory on your USB drive
- right-click the directory and choose "Share with", "Specific people"
- choose yourself from the list of users and click Share and Done
- in the "Create System Image" menu choose "On a network location"
- now enter the URL for your share (\\your-computer\sharename)
- enter your username and password and click OK

http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/wind ... fca?auth=1

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Re: creating bootable usb windows backup recovery usb thumbd

Postby bdub » Tue Jan 12, 2016 1:48 pm

that is the bomb!.... so making image now. will see if I can boot to the thumbdrive and roll the image out to a new disk. if I can do that, life is golden!

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Re: creating bootable usb windows backup recovery usb thumbd

Postby rascard2007 » Tue Jan 12, 2016 2:14 pm

Good Luck!
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Re: creating bootable usb windows backup recovery usb thumbd

Postby bdub » Wed Jan 13, 2016 9:24 am

no luck seeing the image on the thumbdrive (which is great we at least put one there via windows backup) via bootable win recovery disc (in this case it's the same thumbdrive).
there is an option to check network resources, but in this winre environment, it doesn't know about the thumbdrive as a tricked up network source, like we did inside regular windows.
so still trying to work thru this, but I feel we've made good strides.
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Re: creating bootable usb windows backup recovery usb thumbd

Postby Karlsweldt » Wed Jan 13, 2016 5:23 pm

The NTFS file system is not a default or 'universal' file system. FAT32 is. For the BIOS or BASIC mode, only FAT 12 can be read for booting. Any other type of media such as an optical disk or USB needs an ISO boot loader.
http://en.softonic.com/s/bootable-usb-iso-file-fat32
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Re: creating bootable usb windows backup recovery usb thumbd

Postby rascard2007 » Thu Jan 14, 2016 7:21 am

but Karl, he needs the backup image files in the thumbdrive, so at some point he has to use NTFS file system
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Re: creating bootable usb windows backup recovery usb thumbd

Postby Karlsweldt » Thu Jan 14, 2016 6:26 pm

Unless the OS is in NTFS mode, it cannot read that format from a storage device.
FAT 32 is the 'default' mode. Maximum file size is just under 4 GB for FAT 32. But how many files are that large or larger?
If the hard drive becomes corrupted, then a reinstall or repair is needed for the OS. Then a backup drive in NTFS can be accessed.
If only doing daily or as needed backups from the OS itself, to a USB device, then NTFS would be more appropriate.
But to boot from a USB formatted in NTFS, a bootloader process needs to be on the drive.
Interesting..
http://superuser.com/questions/480230/h ... tfs-drives
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