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Postby bdub » Mon Apr 27, 2015 9:57 am

looking for links that give info on how widespread thunderbolt connections use is in different business sectors.
thanks for any links given.

I think it is an interesting technology, but I wonder how long it'll stay in the vogue with technologies similar to usb 3.1 coming out now.
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Re: thunderbolt mainstream usage...

Postby evasive » Mon Apr 27, 2015 10:47 am

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Re: thunderbolt mainstream usage...

Postby Karlsweldt » Mon Apr 27, 2015 3:40 pm

Apple touts 20 Gbps speeds with their version, on Apple systems!
http://www.apple.com/thunderbolt/
Intel is in on the technology too..
http://www.anandtech.com/show/7049/inte ... ed-to-know
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Re: thunderbolt mainstream usage...

Postby bdub » Tue Apr 28, 2015 9:02 pm

I understand the tech, intel and apple built it, apple licensed it fairly exclusively for a while, and now it's available in laptops and a few desktop mobo's...
what I'm trying to ascertain is if it'll catch on widely, or go by the wayside. usb already gave firewire its walking papers. I wonder if usb3 and 3.1 will do the same thing to thunderbolt.
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Re: thunderbolt mainstream usage...

Postby Karlsweldt » Wed Apr 29, 2015 5:51 am

Another descriptive link about Thunderbolt.. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thunderbol ... terface%29
With hard-wire links, there is attenuation of the signal over long distances.. unless a 'repeater' is installed on the route.
This is due to inherent resistance and capacitance effects.
Fiber optics can go longer distances with less loss.
Some Thunderbolt cables can be up to 30m in length.. or longer. USB has a limit on distance, if the host powers the device.. about 3m. But if the device is self-powered, the distance could be twice that, with minimal performance loss.
Default is 2m or 6 ft for a USB with AWG 26 wire size. Heavier gauge will have less loss over greater distance.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USB
As to the "survivor" in the Fire wire, USB or Thunderbolt race, choice depends on the distance between devices. And need of data speed and power needs. For greater distances, fiber optics is the champion. But only for data.
Hard-wire connections do have a limit on bandwidth. Fiber-optics can have up to 10x the bandwidth, using separate R-G-B color spectrums.
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Re: thunderbolt mainstream usage...

Postby evasive » Wed Apr 29, 2015 6:02 am

If you compare the amount of Thunderbolt devices to the USB 3.0 devices (which came out later), what does that tell you? For one thing, anything with a Thunderbolt connection is expensive. It may be better but we all know what happened to Betamax and Video2000 compared to VHS recoders...
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Re: thunderbolt mainstream usage...

Postby bdub » Wed Apr 29, 2015 1:14 pm

and THAT's exactly what I tell people where I work... but they're all consumed with it, like it's the best thing since sliced bread.
I want to stop that kind of thinking, so I'm looking for proof it'll be a flash in the pan.

the place I work at, we don't really need anything it offers for the purposes of what we mostly sell, but powers that be say we need to have it available in our machine FOR MARKETING PURPOSES. blah.
well, at least this is the discussion currently.
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Re: thunderbolt mainstream usage...

Postby Karlsweldt » Wed Apr 29, 2015 3:41 pm

..we all know what happened to Betamax and Video2000 compared to VHS recorders...

And VHS is "walking the plank" with the advent of DVR systems!

As to proper needs for any business, the Internet is prime real estate.. with maximum exposure. Having a high-bandwidth connection such as a T10 data line, and a goodly number of client handles on a robust server, will please the Web shoppers.
Most motherboards today have 100/1000 Mbps LAN connections.. more than adequate for most business needs.
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