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 Post subject: Budget Gaming PC
PostPosted: Mon Sep 22, 2014 2:49 pm 
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I would like to share a build I am planning to get very soon
and you might wanna make it as a reference on your
upcoming purchase. Got these prices from newegg so
if you'll ask how much it would be on your country,
it would costs somewhere near these prices.

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Cooler Master Elite 110 = $39
* One of the most cheapest ITX casing out there. Unlike Lian-Li's
and Silverstone's, you could fit a standard sized PSU in it.

Corsair CX 430 430W = $39
*430w of power is more than enough for this entire build

Biostar Hi-Fi B85N 3D = $69
*Cheap and has mosy of the features those famous brands currently has.
For this small platform, it has a good built-in audio.

Intel Pentium G3258 3.2 Ghz LGA 1150 = $69
*At $70 you get a special edition CPU from Intel. An unlocked
CPU that overclocks well with the Biostar Hi-Fi B85N 3D.

G.Skill Ripjaws X 4GB X 2 DDR3 1600mhz = $79
*G.sKill sports a cheap and a kickass design on their
rams. 8Gb with a 1600mhz speed is good enough to play current released games.

Zotac GTX 750Ti 1GB 128-Bit GDDR5 = $139
*Sports the new Maxwell architecture. A card so powerful to handle
games like Battlefield 4, Titanfall, COD Ghosts etc. that peaks at
insanely low 75 watts.

Western Digital WD Blue 1TB SATA = $59
1Tb is I think a pretty good enough capacity for this build.

Total = $493
(monitor excluded)

A budget gaming PC that can handle latest games @ full HD.
It has a small foot print that you could put it almost anywhere
on your table.

Need inputs, Thanks!


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 Post subject: Re: Budget Gaming PC
PostPosted: Mon Sep 22, 2014 3:02 pm 
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Welcome to Motherboards.org.
Perhaps your post may be better sited in the "Recommendations" topic folder. But please, don't double-post!
A Mod will decide.
Looks like a decent entry-level system. Good luck with it. With that much system memory, a 64-bit OS is needed.

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 Post subject: Re: Budget Gaming PC
PostPosted: Mon Sep 22, 2014 3:13 pm 
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Karlsweldt wrote:
Welcome to Motherboards.org.
Perhaps your post may be better sited in the "Recommendations" topic folder. But please, don't double-post!
A Mod will decide.
Looks like a decent entry-level system. Good luck with it. With that much system memory, a 64-bit OS is needed.


Thanks for the approval. Sorry for the double post, must be beginner's mistake.
Yes, 64-bit it is. 8Gb memory is I guess the trend for gaming nowadays. COD-Ghosts now requires 6Gb.


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 Post subject: Re: Budget Gaming PC
PostPosted: Mon Sep 22, 2014 3:30 pm 
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430W power supply is in no way considered sufficient unless maybe replacing a unit from a big box computer..

8GB of RAM is in my honest opinion a choking point... My system has 8GB right now and chokes and I do not game..

And cheap does not necessarily = Budget..

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 Post subject: Re: Budget Gaming PC
PostPosted: Tue Sep 23, 2014 9:30 am 
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Toby B. wrote:
430W power supply is in no way considered sufficient unless maybe replacing a unit from a big box computer..

8GB of RAM is in my honest opinion a choking point... My system has 8GB right now and chokes and I do not game..

And cheap does not necessarily = Budget..


For this build a 430w PSU is more than enough. Using watt meter tested my unit with an overclocked i5 3570k to 4.6 and HD 7950 @ 1200/1500, never get pass 400w.


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 Post subject: Re: Budget Gaming PC
PostPosted: Sat Sep 27, 2014 3:42 pm 
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Post approved. Sorry for delay.
If you note a 400 watt draw on that 430 watt PSU, it is borderline. Any surges from a servo starting could cause a ripple in the DC sources. Minimal should be a 500 watt PSU. But for a micro case, you may be limited to specific PSU types.

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 Post subject: Re: Budget Gaming PC
PostPosted: Sun Sep 28, 2014 11:11 am 
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Karlsweldt wrote:
Post approved. Sorry for delay.
If you note a 400 watt draw on that 430 watt PSU, it is borderline. Any surges from a servo starting could cause a ripple in the DC sources. Minimal should be a 500 watt PSU. But for a micro case, you may be limited to specific PSU types.


I guess PSU size wouldn't be a problem since the case support standard sized PSU's.
If I would be estimating wattage output part by part I guess it will never reach at least 300w I suppose.


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 29, 2014 8:03 am 
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Euro_Bucks wrote:
For this build a 430w PSU is more than enough. Using watt meter tested my unit with an overclocked i5 3570k to 4.6 and HD 7950 @ 1200/1500, never get pass 400w.


as your actual power draw reaches the maximum output of the PSU your power efficiencies can drop drastically - leading to instabilities in power as well as rapid heat increases. while you've chosen at least an 80+ Bronze, your power draw of 400w on a 430w max rated load is 93% and is considered only ~80-82% efficient. you're losing 20% to heat, and in reality would be drawing over 430w of total power.

if you are measuring 400w at the plug, then your machine is probably running closer to 350w-365w of actual draw to run...with additional waste getting you to the 400w.

personally, if you're using a small form factor i would never compromise on a PSU's efficiency. i generally never compromise on the PSU in general, but when you get into small cases inefficiencies compound quicker. when i was running a travel case(lanbox) i over-powered it by almost 200w. the rationale is that it never even "sweats" to pump that much power out. it always stayed cool, and i never had to worry about it being taxed in a small enclosure. i could survive with just the PSU fan, 2 small 40mm intakes and a 80mm out(w/ side venting).

will you be fine with that PSU? most likely yes, it'll probably be perfectly adequate.

i don't like, and don't endorse, "adequate". i prefer "more-than-capable". PDT_Armataz_01_42

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 Post subject: Re: Budget Gaming PC
PostPosted: Mon Sep 29, 2014 8:39 am 
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Any type of PSU is rated at total power output. If one source reaches its maximum, it should not really affect other sources. But if that source is exceeded in current, it can drastically reduce current and regulation on other sources.
The heaviest current draw on a PSU is the +3.3 volt and +5 volt. The +12 volt source may have only one "rail", and is also subject to exceeding its current limits if too many fans or servo devices are connected. Two or more +12 volt rails are preferred.. as the video system may require more power than its slot can deliver. The CPU also may require a +12 volt auxiliary source.
The only true way to measure DC current is with an in-line ammeter, or a properly designed parallel flux field sampler.

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