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 Post subject: Windows XP updates
PostPosted: Sun Apr 20, 2014 11:29 am 
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I have windows xp pro on this computer. I am running out of hard drive space. I have deleted a bunch of programs I didn't use but there are these,
ms .net framework 2.0 sp2
ms .net framework 3.0 sp2
ms .net framework 3.5 sp1
ms .net framework client profile
ms .net framework extended.
Some of these updates are huge, one is 400meg.
Can I delete any of these and not suffer???

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Yes you can, however some programs rely on them ie ATI Catalyst driver is one.. If you want less hassle on a windows system they are best left alone.. If you are running out of space, back your documents/photos and the like up to another drive. Run disk clean up and defrag the hard drive.. It is also worthwhile deleting all the items in the windows prefetch folder (no detriment). Bear in mind that due to large hard drive sizes available quite cheaply, M$ files are bigger, media files are bigger (for HD) and browsers have a bigger footprint to account for this...

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Even if not using IE for browsing, it still collects "junk" files! Go into the Temporary Internet Files and check each sub-folder. The only file you want to keep is the desktop.ini file. All the rest are of no value. Same with the Cookies sub-folder. Any "*.txt" file can be deleted.
From the blue "e" on the desktop, choose 'properties' where you can manually delete useless files. But may not be 100% effective.
Have seen "junk" files in excess of several hundred megs on some systems.
Mr T has a good point. Get a larger hard drive, partition it into two or three separate drives. Keep non-system data there, leave just the OS dependent files on the "C" drive. Any programming on a different partition will work as well as if on the primary partition.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 21, 2014 1:41 pm 
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OK. I have run Ccleaner which should get rid of most junk. What I have is 2 sata drives in a mirror setup. I guess a bigger drive would be the solve. I could get 2 drives and install one and clone windows to that one, remove the 2 old drives, install the other new one and rebuild the mirror. I this a good way? Thanks folks. always get fixes here, most of the time by just reading. :D

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you should be able to take out one of the smaller drives, put in a bigger one, mirror from small to large, then replace the existing smaller one with another larger and re-mirror from the first large one.

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Acronis Migrate Easy is one of the better programs to ensure a 100% migration and bootable "new" drive. Acronis also has other programs, including "True Image".
Laplink also has a good program for migration to a new hard drive.

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Any suggestion as to brand and drive size from the brains here?

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A choice for hard drive brands and size is quite varied. Depends a lot on what the system is used for. For 'general' use, a 500 GB drive should suffice. Or max out with a 1 TB drive or two!
As to the performance factor of the drive, consider its expected life-span. Many are rated at up to 5 years or 100,000 hours MTBF (mean time between failures). Some only up to 50,000 hours MTBF or less. Solid-state drives still do not match the life span of standard hard drives.. but are improving.
For my personal use, I chose the Seagate® ES ST500NM0011 which is intended for 'extended' service. On both my older XP system and newer Win 7 system.

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I've been futzing around with virtual OSes a lot lately, and I made a bare-bones, stripped-to-the-rails XP installation (slipstreamed with SP2). It came to a total size of 1.5 GB. Then I applied SP3 and all the available patches and IE8. No updates to .Net prior to v4, and no user applications whatsoever, no media player, no nuthin'. That brought it up to 12 GB, of which 1.5GB was page file. So the patches amounted to almost six times the volume of the bare installation.

I ask you, ...is this any way to run an airline?

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brev, run ccleaner and clean out the uninstall info for the updates, that will bring it down almost 1GB. But, I agree, if that is indeed the case, it is staggering :o

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