Which Linux Distros to try before "the switch"?

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Postby BIGMAN131307 » Tue Nov 19, 2013 4:55 am

MOBO, vcard, PS all look fine. Cables all look good and reseated.

I gave "Macpup" a try, and no go. :( It didn't even want to load correctly.


As for "Tinycore" & "DSL" I couldn't locate the proper files to download. :(


What is making this so damn hard? I know how to download the ISO, and
put them on the CD/DVDs.
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Postby Roach412 » Tue Nov 19, 2013 8:12 am

i've never seen all those distros fail when attempting to load. 2 or 3 of them, sure...but, not like 10+. There's something wrong hardware-wise, the trick is finding it (obviously).

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Postby Hardware Junkie » Thu Nov 21, 2013 5:35 am

Roach412 wrote:i've never seen all those distros fail when attempting to load. 2 or 3 of them, sure...but, not like 10+. There's something wrong hardware-wise, the trick is finding it (obviously).

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yeah I agree.
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Postby BIGMAN131307 » Thu Nov 21, 2013 10:31 pm

There's something wrong hardware-wise, the trick is finding it (obviously).
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The only thing(s) hardware-wise that is wrong was my (internal) DVD+-/RW drive. A few months back it started to not work properly. So I got an (external) DVD+-/RW drive to replace it. I didn't take out the internal one yet. Just haven't had the chance to tear apart my case to do it.

But in the last few days my (internal) DVD-ROM drive has gone flaky. The tray keeps going in & out. So I stopped using it.

Both internal drives are over 10+ years old. The external drive is used for all uses.
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Could that be causing my problems with all the Linux Distros?

Would removing the internal disc drives fix this problem?
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Postby evasive » Fri Nov 22, 2013 1:38 am

hmmm not sure how nice your motherboard is playing with the external writer BIOS-wise for support in the linux liveCDs. Less is more usually so I'd suggest to try and get a new internal one (borrow/beg from somewhere) because that might indeed be the culprit.
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Postby Hardware Junkie » Fri Nov 22, 2013 5:53 am

Unless the bad internal one is wreaking havoc with the hard drive. Did you disconnect it? Remove the IDE cable if you haven't. Set the hard drive to Master (Or Single if required).
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Postby Karlsweldt » Fri Nov 22, 2013 8:23 am

But in the last few days my (internal) DVD-ROM drive has gone flaky. The tray keeps going in & out. So I stopped using it.

Almost all optical drives (excluding laptop types) have sliding plastic parts and gears which are somewhat self-lubricating when new. But over time, that quality is lost.. and the tray can cycle in and out without reason, due to limit switches not sensing proper travel.
No way to remedy that problem.. except replacement. Five years use for an optical drive is a "good" life. Beyond that, problems can arise.
Then too, the polycarbonate lens on the laser is very attractive to pollutants. Cleaning it with a laser lens cleaning disk after maybe 20 or so hours of use ensures it can target the data layer properly. Never use any cleaning liquids with ammonia on it! That can permanently yellow the lens.
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Postby BIGMAN131307 » Mon Apr 07, 2014 10:40 pm

I was able to get some new blank media to give this another try.

I'm running these as Live DVDs from an external drive. I need to try some out before I install. Here are my recent results.


Mageria 4 Live DVD Gnome & Mageria 4 Live DVD KDE

Both get to the desktop, but one reaches a second desktop with an animated cursor. How long does it usually take to load the full desktop?


Knoppix 7 DVD

Boots and loads ok. But what do I need to do at this message:
Enter run level:_


Kubuntu 13.10, Lubuntu 13.10, Ubuntu 13.10

All get to the load screen. How long should they take to completely load?


Fedora Live Desktop, Debian Live 7.4

Gets to the boot screen. But eventually shows several error messages.
IE: Unable to read data, Unable to read page


openSUSE 13.1 KDE Live & openSUSE 13.1 Gnome Live

Both get to desktop. How long should they take to completely load?


Zorin 8.1, PC Linux, Elementary OS, Freespire, Linuxmint

All get to the load screen. How long show they take to completely load?

DSL

Couldn't figure out what to select.

StartOS 5.1 Live

DVD didn't even move.


Overall most appeared to be loading. But they seem to take a long time.
Is that because I'm using an external drive? How long should they take to load? I really like to try these distros out.

Please help me get these working. ATM I can't get a newer M$ OS.
I'd much rather get Linux up and running.

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Postby Karlsweldt » Tue Apr 08, 2014 5:40 am

Loading any operating system is fastest when the files are low in count, and from a resident hard drive. The OS works primarily from system memory, which has the fastest response. Any hard drive or storage media is only a repository for data. MS DOS 5.0 was the first to use the expanded memory storage area (EMS) above the first meg of system memory, to load OS files. All previous versions loaded OS files in the first 640 KB of memory! Other program files could suffer space restrictions.
An optical drive is about four times slower in data transfer than a hard drive in residence. Same too for any removable media. Network (LAN) connections are into the 100 megabits/second range or higher. USB 3.0 speed is up to 4 gigabits/second. USB 2.0 is up to 400 megabits/second, and USB 1.0 is down around 1.5 megabits/second, low bandwidth, and up to 12 megabits/second at high bandwidth. All USB rates are dependent on cable type and length. Reference: Wiki, USB
Linux versions are the least congested with system files. For a 100% load time, should be less than two minutes. The latest Windows OS might be accessible in about two minutes, but can take perhaps another five minutes to finish its backup/restore process and allow full user access.

New Egg does offer a Windows 7 OEM pack for about $100.00 USD.
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Postby BIGMAN131307 » Wed Apr 09, 2014 1:37 am

Karlsweldt wrote:New Egg does offer a Windows 7 OEM pack for about $100.00 USD.


Would my current system even run it?

MS XP SP3
MSI MS-7181
AMD Athlon 64 3200+
2.21 GHz
2 GB RAM
NVIDIA GeForce 7800GS
Plextor DVD+-RW PX-712A
ASUS DVD-ROM E616P
Maxtor 6Y200P0 Internal HDD x2
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If I did a full install of any of Linux Distros would they load faster?

Or is there something completely wrong with discs? I gotten all the ISO
files from the Distros websites. Burned the images to discs, etc.

Are there any comparison charts for these distros?
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