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Re: computer shuts down when playing games

Postby Karlsweldt » Thu Apr 04, 2013 6:54 am

Z315 wrote:Update: Just installed speedfan4.49. Noticed that Temp1 and CPU is close to 50c. When at 50c there is flame icon next to them.

That is rather a low thermal limit for the CPU. When working "hard", it may reach upwards of 65°C. Go into the BIOS page concerning CPU health, and set the cut-off temp (or alarm temp) limit to 60°C. and see what happens.
With that model CPU you note (AMD FX eight core 3.10ghz ), it will run hot unless given plenty of circulating air and good heat sink contact.
The most common points of thermal monitoring are the CPU, GPU and hard drive. "Ambient" temperature may be just a probe elsewhere on the mobo.
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Postby Z315 » Thu Apr 04, 2013 3:08 pm

Logged temperatures when I was running a game to crash the computer. This was my result.:



Seconds GPU Temp1 Temp2 Temp3 HD0 CPU MB
85998 31.0 38.0 35.0 -128.0 35.0 38.0 35.0
86001 31.0 38.0 35.0 -128.0 35.0 38.0 35.0
86004 31.0 38.0 35.0 -128.0 35.0 38.0 35.0
86007 31.0 39.0 35.0 -128.0 35.0 39.0 35.0
86010 31.0 39.0 35.0 -128.0 35.0 39.0 35.0
86013 31.0 39.0 35.0 -128.0 35.0 39.0 35.0
86016 30.0 40.0 35.0 -128.0 35.0 40.0 35.0
86020 31.0 40.0 35.0 -128.0 35.0 40.0 35.0
86023 34.0 40.0 35.0 -128.0 35.0 40.0 35.0
86026 35.0 41.0 35.0 -128.0 35.0 41.0 35.0
86029 34.0 41.0 35.0 -128.0 35.0 41.0 35.0
86032 33.0 41.0 35.0 -128.0 35.0 41.0 35.0
86035 33.0 41.0 35.0 -128.0 35.0 41.0 35.0
86038 32.0 42.0 35.0 -128.0 35.0 42.0 35.0
86041 33.0 42.0 35.0 -128.0 35.0 42.0 35.0
86044 37.0 42.0 35.0 -128.0 35.0 42.0 35.0
86047 36.0 42.0 35.0 -128.0 35.0 42.0 35.0
86050 37.0 43.0 35.0 -128.0 35.0 43.0 35.0
86053 37.0 43.0 35.0 -128.0 35.0 43.0 35.0
86056 37.0 43.0 35.0 -128.0 35.0 43.0 35.0
86059 38.0 44.0 35.0 -128.0 35.0 44.0 35.0
86062 38.0 44.0 35.0 -128.0 35.0 44.0 35.0
86065 39.0 44.0 35.0 -128.0 35.0 44.0 35.0
86068 39.0 44.0 35.0 -128.0 35.0 44.0 35.0
86072 39.0 45.0 35.0 -128.0 35.0 45.0 35.0
86075 40.0 45.0 35.0 -128.0 35.0 45.0 35.0
86078 40.0 45.0 35.0 -128.0 35.0 45.0 35.0
86081 40.0 45.0 35.0 -128.0 35.0 45.0 35.0
86084 41.0 45.0 35.0 -128.0 35.0 45.0 35.0
86087 41.0 45.0 35.0 -128.0 35.0 45.0 35.0
86090 41.0 46.0 35.0 -128.0 35.0 46.0 35.0
86093 41.0 46.0 35.0 -128.0 35.0 46.0 35.0
86096 41.0 46.0 35.0 -128.0 35.0 46.0 35.0
86099 41.0 46.0 35.0 -128.0 35.0 46.0 35.0
86102 41.0 46.0 35.0 -128.0 35.0 46.0 35.0
86105 41.0 47.0 35.0 -128.0 35.0 47.0 35.0
86108 42.0 47.0 35.0 -128.0 35.0 47.0 35.0
86111 42.0 47.0 35.0 -128.0 35.0 47.0 35.0
86114 42.0 47.0 35.0 -128.0 35.0 47.0 35.0
86117 43.0 47.0 35.0 -128.0 35.0 47.0 35.0
86120 46.0 48.0 35.0 -128.0 35.0 48.0 35.0
86124 46.0 48.0 35.0 -128.0 35.0 48.0 35.0
86127 47.0 48.0 35.0 -128.0 35.0 48.0 35.0
86130 47.0 49.0 35.0 -128.0 35.0 49.0 35.0
86133 44.0 49.0 35.0 -128.0 35.0 49.0 35.0
86136 43.0 49.0 35.0 -128.0 35.0 49.0 35.0
86139 48.0 50.0 35.0 -128.0 35.0 50.0 35.0
86142 50.0 50.0 35.0 -128.0 35.0 50.0 35.0
86145 52.0 51.0 35.0 -128.0 35.0 51.0 35.0
86148 54.0 51.0 35.0 -128.0 35.0 51.0 35.0
86151 55.0 52.0 35.0 -128.0 35.0 52.0 35.0
86154 55.0 52.0 35.0 -128.0 35.0 52.0 35.0
86157 57.0 52.0 35.0 -128.0 35.0 52.0 35.0
86160 59.0 52.0 35.0 -128.0 35.0 52.0 35.0
86163 61.0 53.0 35.0 -128.0 35.0 53.0 35.0
86166 62.0 54.0 35.0 -128.0 35.0 54.0 35.0
86169 63.0 54.0 35.0 -128.0 35.0 54.0 35.0
86172 63.0 54.0 35.0 -128.0 35.0 54.0 35.0
86176 65.0 54.0 35.0 -128.0 35.0 54.0 35.0
86179 65.0 54.0 35.0 -128.0 35.0 54.0 35.0
86182 65.0 54.0 35.0 -128.0 35.0 54.0 35.0
86185 66.0 54.0 35.0 -128.0 35.0 54.0 35.0
86188 66.0 54.0 35.0 -128.0 35.0 54.0 35.0
86191 66.0 54.0 35.0 -128.0 35.0 54.0 35.0
86194 68.0 54.0 35.0 -128.0 35.0 54.0 35.0
86197 69.0 55.0 35.0 -128.0 35.0 55.0 35.0
86200 71.0 55.0 35.0 -128.0 35.0 55.0 35.0
86203 70.0 55.0 35.0 -128.0 35.0 55.0 35.0
86206 70.0 55.0 36.0 -128.0 35.0 55.0 36.0
86209 71.0 55.0 36.0 -128.0 35.0 55.0 36.0
86212 71.0 55.0 36.0 -128.0 35.0 55.0 36.0
86215 71.0 55.0 36.0 -128.0 35.0 55.0 36.0
86218 72.0 55.0 36.0 -128.0 35.0 55.0 36.0
86221 73.0 55.0 36.0 -128.0 35.0 55.0 36.0
86224 74.0 55.0 36.0 -128.0 35.0 55.0 36.0
86228 75.0 55.0 36.0 -128.0 35.0 55.0 36.0
86231 75.0 55.0 36.0 -128.0 35.0 55.0 36.0
86234 75.0 55.0 36.0 -128.0 35.0 55.0 36.0
86237 75.0 55.0 36.0 -128.0 35.0 55.0 36.0
86240 76.0 55.0 36.0 -128.0 35.0 55.0 36.0
86243 76.0 55.0 36.0 -128.0 35.0 55.0 36.0
86246 77.0 55.0 36.0 -128.0 35.0 55.0 36.0
86249 77.0 55.0 36.0 -128.0 35.0 55.0 36.0
86252 77.0 55.0 36.0 -128.0 35.0 55.0 36.0
86255 77.0 55.0 36.0 -128.0 35.0 55.0 36.0
86258 77.0 55.0 36.0 -128.0 35.0 55.0 36.0
86261 78.0 55.0 36.0 -128.0 35.0 55.0 36.0
86264 78.0 55.0 36.0 -128.0 35.0 55.0 36.0
86267 78.0 55.0 36.0 -128.0 35.0 55.0 36.0
86270 78.0 55.0 36.0 -128.0 35.0 55.0 36.0
86273 78.0 55.0 36.0 -128.0 35.0 55.0 36.0
86276 79.0 55.0 36.0 -128.0 35.0 55.0 36.0
86279 78.0 55.0 36.0 -128.0 35.0 55.0 36.0
86283 79.0 55.0 36.0 -128.0 35.0 55.0 36.0
86286 79.0 55.0 36.0 -128.0 35.0 55.0 36.0
86289 79.0 55.0 36.0 -128.0 35.0 55.0 36.0
86292 79.0 55.0 36.0 -128.0 35.0 55.0 36.0
86295 80.0 55.0 36.0 -128.0 35.0 55.0 36.0
86298 80.0 55.0 37.0 -128.0 35.0 55.0 37.0
86301 80.0 55.0 37.0 -128.0 35.0 55.0 37.0
86304 80.0 55.0 37.0 -128.0 35.0 55.0 37.0
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Postby Z315 » Thu Apr 04, 2013 8:50 pm

what makes you say it's something with the mother board?
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Postby evasive » Thu Apr 04, 2013 10:13 pm

yeah 80 degrees on your GPU looks to be the real problem. but the next question, why wasn't it shutting down before. you did check and clean the fan heatsink on your graphics card, right?
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Postby bdub » Fri Apr 05, 2013 4:03 am

and what driver set are you using for the graphics card, the one that came with it on a cd, or the latest from nVidia's website?
also which slot are you placing the vidcard in, and do you have any other cards in any slots?
assuming you recently bought the card, it should be fairly clean, but just assuming here.
i'm wondering if the bios is set to defaults as far as pci-e and cpu buses?
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Postby Karlsweldt » Fri Apr 05, 2013 7:37 am

The design of cooling fans/heat sinks for the CPU and GPU may allow warm exhaust air to be drawn back into the fan.. raising temperatures to critical points. The CPU fan is in mostly "open" territory, but the GPU fan may be boxed in by other device cards.. and its warm exhaust is readily circulated back to the fan.
A case fan blowing toward these critical components will usually cure most heat issues. Many top-end video cards have a shield over the heat sink, and a port through the back plane to exhaust that heat. For the CPU fan, perhaps a short "duct" that raises the intake air point a few inches may be a passive but effective solution. A Styrofoam cup with no bottom, taped over the fan head, might be an option. A direct duct to the rear air inlet would be best. Water-cooling setups can be costly, but are the most efficient.
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Postby Mr T » Fri Apr 05, 2013 7:37 am

A GPU will take 102 deg easily... Download and run the FURMARK benchmark and see how long it goes for...
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Postby Z315 » Sun Apr 07, 2013 9:08 pm

Yes. I have checked and cleaned everything on the video card. Very little dust since the card is less than a month old.

Drivers are up to date from Nvdia's website.

Karl- even with all the sides open I would still need to use the sterofoam trick for the CPU fan?

I just did a memory test and ran it overnight and everythign came out ok. I will try the FURMARK benchmark and report back with results.
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Postby Karlsweldt » Mon Apr 08, 2013 8:44 am

That "trick" using a styrofoam cup is a bypass to curing a problem.. although it is simple and works. The CPU fan is in a cramped area, and unless the PSU has a fan or vent nearby, the exhaust from the heat sink is easily drawn back to the fan. With proper air flow in a PC case, no "tricks" should be needed to keep the system at proper temperatures.
One of the worst places to set a computer is with its back within a foot or so of a wall. Or in a corner! A minimum of two feet is desired, so the warm exhaust is not drawn back into the case. Having the service panel off the case will allow free air flow around components, helping to maintain desired temperatures. If not too involved, you could add a 6" fan to the service panel to provide extra cooling air. Many case designs have this feature, with up to a 12" fan. But use a metal safety shield over the fan, to prevent accidents and excess RFI emissions.
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Postby Z315 » Tue Apr 09, 2013 11:00 am

I would once again like to thank each and everyone of you for assisting and teaching on how to fix my current situation.

I added the cup on top of the CPU fan.

I was able to get another recently purchased identical nvidia gtx 660. video card swapped to the computer in question.

I ran Red Fraction Armageddon and there are no longer hard shutdowns. However, about an hour into the test/playing, the screen would freeze and filled with color static(although you can still somewhat see the outline of the game) and the game minizes.

Windows says that the graphic card was unresponsive and now has recovered. You can still hear the sounds from the game but according to task manager it is unresponsive.

I updated new video card and the problem remains.

So confused....
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