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Postby c327 » Mon Aug 30, 2010 1:50 am

Unbelievable!

Parkland Memorial Hospital in Dallas , Texas is a fairly famous institution and for a variety of reasons:

1. John F. Kennedy died there in 1963.

2. Lee Harvey Oswald died there shortly after.

3. Jack Ruby-who killed Oswald, died there a few years later.

On the flip side, Parkland is also home to the second busiest maternity ward in the country with almost 16,000 new babies arriving each year. (That's almost 44 per day---every day)!

A recent patient survey indicated that 70 percent of the women who gave birth at Parkland in the first three months of 2006 were illegal immigrants. That's 11,200 anchor babies born every year just in Dallas !!!

According to the article, the hospital spent $70.7 million delivering 15,938 babies in 2004 but managed to end up with almost $8 million dollars in surplus funding. Medicaid kicked in $34.5 million, Dallas County taxpayers kicked in $31.3 million and the feds tossed in another $9.5 million.

The average patient in Parkland in maternity wards is 25 years old, married and giving birth to her second child. She is also an illegal immigrant. By law, pregnant women cannot be denied medical care based on their immigration status or ability to pay.

OK, fine. That doesn't mean they should receive better care than everyday, middle-class American citizens. But at Parkland Hospital, they do. Parkland Memorial Hospital has nine prenatal clinics. NINE!!!

The Dallas Morning News article followed a Hispanic woman who was a patient at one of the clinics and pregnant with her third child---her previous two were also born at Parkland . Her first two deliveries were free and the Mexican native was grateful because it would have cost $200 to have them in Mexico. This time, the hospital wants her to pay $10 per visit and $100 for the delivery but she was unsure if she could come up with the money. Not that it matters, the hospital won't turn her away. (I wonder why they even bother asking at this point.)

How long has this been going on? What are the long-term effects?

Well, another subject of the article was born at Parkland in 1986 shortly after her mother entered the US illegally - now she is having her own child there as well. (That's right; she's technically a US citizen.)

These women receive free prenatal care including medication, nutrition, birthing classes and child care classes. They also get freebies such as car seats, bottles, diapers and formula.

Most of these things are available to American citizens as well, but only for low-income applicants, and even then, the red tape involved is almost insurmountable.

Because these women are illegal immigrants, they do not have to provide any sort of legitimate identification - no proof of income. An American citizen would have to provide a social security number which would reveal their annual income - an illegal immigrant need only claim to be poor and the hospital must take them at their word.

Parkland Hospital offers indigent care to Dallas County residents who earn less than $40,000 per year. (They also have to prove that they did not refuse health coverage at their current job.. Yeah, the 'free' care is not so easy for Americans.)

There are about 140 patients who received roughly $4 million dollars for un-reimbursed medical care. As it turns out, they did not qualify for free treatment because they resided outside of Dallas County so the hospital is going to sue them! Illegal's get it all free! But U. S. citizens who live outside of Dallas County get sued! How stupid is this?

As if that isn't annoying enough, the illegal immigrant patients are actually complaining about hospital staff not speaking Spanish. In this AP story, the author speaks with a woman who is upset that she had to translate comments from the hospital staff into Spanish for her husband. The doctor was trying to explain the situation to the family and the mother was forced to translate for her husband who only spoke Spanish. This was apparently a great injustice to her.

In an attempt to create a Spanish-speaking staff, Parkland Hospital is now providing incentives in the form of extra pay for applicants who speak Spanish.. Additionally, medical students at the University of Texas Southwestern for which Parkland Hospital is the training facility will now have a Spanish language requirement added to their already jammed-packed curriculum. No other school in the country boasts such a ridiculous multi-semester (multicultural) requirement.

(Sorry for the length, but this needs wide circulation particularly to our "employees" in Congress.)

Remember that this is about only ONE hospital in Dallas, Texas. There are many more hospitals across our country that must also deal with this.
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Postby CivilDissent » Mon Aug 30, 2010 11:11 am

Our local hospitals' emergency room used to be packed packed with illegals. For years it was like this. Recently something changed. The hospital changed some sort of documentation and the last time I saw it there were 4 patients there on a Friday night. They did something and local residents are very happy now.



Note: The whole irony is why does my Cantonese wife have to show her documents but those from South of the border do not?

I am totally for equal rights but that means for everyone not just those from one direction on the compass.

Can my wife invite her whole family, friends, etc. over here to be able to have anchor babies, vote, etc. and never have to show proof of citizenship? Can someone from Europe, Asia, Africa, etc., etc. do the same as those who are not from South of the border...nope. Therefore, the rights are not "equal". Ya know, that thing our president claims to be about.

My wife took several years doing things right going through all kinds of official documentation, learning the language before she set one foot on US soil, etc., etc. and she proudly flies the US flag.
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Postby fussnfeathers » Mon Aug 30, 2010 6:02 pm

Try to find some figures for nationals that recieve the same care as illegals, at the same rate of little pay. Or, the opposite, BC/BS didn't cover my last back MRI and my out of pocket was ten grand, so figure four years on of paying monthly I'm only halfway through just that one bill.

Look around you. The whole thing cannot be laid just on one nationality. We have more homeless, out of work people here in my area than we do immigrants, legal or otherwise, and they're citizens. We have a massive unemployment rate that means medical care is having to be covered somehow, unless you also want to dump us disabled on the scrap heap too. After all, what can I do but sit around and hope to one day get government money? How much worse am I than an illegal that works his/her butt off?

Look at the whole picture. You're missing tons of other nationalities that are here illegally (actually, my sis' first husband was an illegal from London). I'm not completely arguing your point, you are right, for some odd reason Hispanics hang out in groups of no less than 20, everywhere, even the gas station. But there's a whole lot more out there you're blinding yourself to.
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Postby Roach412 » Tue Aug 31, 2010 7:39 am

his post was entirely about one hospital - with the qualifier that it's a very specific "case study". of course there's millions of other things to worry about - but there is a very good/valid point from the OP.

point being - until we start fixing free stuff going out to all sorts of folks that don't a) need it b) deserve it c) "other", then we won't have the capital or resources to fix other parts.

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Postby fussnfeathers » Wed Sep 01, 2010 5:10 pm

I'm not arguing it's just one hospital, I'm merely pointing out that it's not just that one, and not just one nationality. That's all.

a) I agree too many people go to the ER for a chest cold when they could simply call their PC (if they have one, but that's another problem in itself) and have an appointment the next day, or at least a script called in that evening until they can be seen. Obviously take case by case, CIDP is an autoimmune disease, a nice chest cold could kill me, literally. I used to deal with people like that all the time, calling wanting their doc to meet them at the ER, their kid had a nosebleed for 20 minutes. :roll:

b) Everybody, and I mean everybody, deserves health care. Period. End of story. How it gets paid for is up to the provider. I am NOT going to be the one to judge that an American having a heart attack gets treatment when a Hispanic having a heart attack is left to die. Hell, I had somebody tell me I didn't deserve insurance because of my disability, I'm nothing but a drain on society. I didn't punch them. He was right, to an extent, my IViG treatments vary depending on the batch, but the last round was $15k PER DAY for five days. And I have State insurance, taxpayers pay for it. I hate that.

But back on track, I agree halfway. Kick out the attention seekers, the drug seekers (I can pinpoint one down to a T by the way they act at the doc's office), and the riffraff getting mild injuries just for a place to hang out, but don't start denying an international human right, based on an oath followed by every doctor on the planet, help those who need help, and turn none away.
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