Get ready to pay through the nose...........

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Postby CivilDissent » Sun Mar 21, 2010 9:51 pm

Well folks, get ready to watch your taxes skyrocket!
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Postby c327 » Mon Mar 22, 2010 3:56 am

Well of coarse. Who else is going to pay for everything Obama is giving away. 3 more years of this........oh boy..........
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Postby fussnfeathers » Mon Mar 22, 2010 4:16 am

Giving away............riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight. It'd be worse if that were actually true. Lottery and prize taxes are 50% of the retail value.
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Postby thomas_w_bowman » Mon Mar 22, 2010 6:49 am

If only Taxes were the isses...

Page 22 of the HC Bill: *Mandates that the Govt will audit books of all
employers that self-insure!!
*
Page 30 Sec 123 of HC bill: *THERE WILL BE A GOVT COMMITTEE that decides
what treatments/benefits you get.
*
Page 29 lines 4-16 in the HC bill: *YOUR HEALTH CARE IS RATIONED!!!

*Page 42 of HC Bill: *The Health Choices Commissioner will choose your HC
benefits for you. You have no choice!
*
Page 50 Section 152 in HC bill: *HC will be provided to ALL non-US
citizens, illegal or otherwise.
*
Page 58 HC Bill: *Govt will have real-time access to individuals'
finances & a 'National ID Health card' will be issued! **(Papers please!)
*
Page 59 HC Bill lines 21-24: *Govt will have direct access to your bank
accounts for elective funds transfer. **(Time for more cash and carry)
**
*Page 65 Sec 164: *Is a payoff subsidized plan for retirees and their
families in unions & community organizations: (ACORN).
*
Page 84 Sec 203 HC bill: *Govt mandates ALL benefit packages for private
HC plans in the 'Exchange.'

*Page 85 Line 7 HC Bill: *Specifications of Benefit Levels for
Plans *--*The Govt will ration your health care!

*Page 91 Lines 4-7 HC Bill: *Govt mandates linguistic appropriate
services. (Translation: illegal aliens.)

*Page 95 HC Bill Lines 8-18: *The Govt will use groups (i.e. ACORN &
Americorps to sign up individuals for Govt HC plan.
*
Page 85 Line 7 HC Bill: *Specifications of Benefit Levels for Plans. (AARP
members - your health care WILL be rationed!)*
Page 102 Lines 12-18 HC Bill: *Medicaid eligible individuals will be
automatically enrolled in Medicaid. (No choice.)
*
Page 12 4 lines 24-25 HC: *No company can sue GOVT on price fixing. No
"judicial review" against Govt monopoly.
*
Page 127 Lines 1-16 HC Bill: *Doctors/ American Medical Association - The
Govt will tell YOU what salary you can make.
*
Page 145 Line 15-17: *An Employer MUST auto-enroll employees into public
option plan. (NO choice!)
*
Page 126 Lines 22-25: *Employers MUST pay for HC for part-time employees
ANDtheir families. (Employees shouldn't get excited about this as
employers will be forced to reduce its work force, benefits, and
wages/salaries to cover such a huge expense.)
*
Page 149 Lines 16-24: *ANY Employer with payroll 401k & above who does not
provide public option will pay 8% tax on all payroll! (See the last
comment in parenthesis.)*
Page 150 Lines 9-13: *A business with payroll between $251K & $401K who
doesn't provide public option will pay 2-6% tax on all payroll*.

Page 167 Lines 18-23: *ANY individual who doesn't have acceptable HC
according to Govt will be taxed 2.5% of income.
*
Page 170 Lines 1-3 HC Bill: *Any NONRESIDENT Alien is exempt from
individual taxes. (Americans will pay.) **(Like always)
*
Page 195 HC Bill:* Officers & employees of the GOVT HC Admin.. will have
access to ALL Americans' finances and personal records. **(I guess so
they can 'deduct' their fees)
**
*Page 203 Line 14-15 HC: *"The tax imposed under this section shall not be
treated as tax." (Yes, it really says that!) **( a 'fee' instead)** *
Page 239 Line 14-24 HC Bill: *Govt will reduce physician services for
Medicaid Seniors. (Low-income and the poor are affected.)**
*
Page 241 Line 6-8 HC Bill: Doctors: *It doesn't matter what specialty you
have trained yourself in -- you will all be paid the same! (Just TRY to
tell me that's not Socialism!)
*
Page 253 Line 10-18: *The Govt sets the value of a doctor's time,
profession, judgment, etc. (Literally-- the value of humans.)
*
*Page 265 Sec 1131: The Govt mandates and controls productivity for
"private" HC industries.

Page 268 Sec 1141: The federal Govt regulates the rental and purchase of
power driven wheelchairs.

Page 272 SEC. 1145: TREATMENT OF CERTAIN CANCER HOSPITALS - Cancer
patients - welcome to rationing!

Page 280 Sec 1151: The Govt will penalize hospitals for whatever the Govt
deems preventable (i.e...re-admissions).

Page 298 Lines 9-11: Doctors: If you treat a patient during initial
admission that results in a re-admission -- the Govt will penalize you.

Page 317 L 13-20: PROHIBITION on ownership/investment. (The Govt tells
doctors what and how much they can own!)

Page 317-318 lines 21-25, 1-3: PROHIBITION on expansion. (The Govt is
mandating that hospitals cannot expand.)*
*Page 321 2-13: Hospitals have the opportunity to apply for exception BUT
community input is required. (Can you say ACORN?)

Page 335 L 16-25 Pg 336-339: The Govt mandates establishment of=2
outcome-based measures. (HC the way they want -- rationing.)*
*Page 341 Lines 3-9: The Govt has authority to disqualify Medicare Advance
Plans, HMOs, etc. (Forcing people into the Govt plan)

Page 354 Sec 1177: The Govt will RESTRICT enrollment of 'special needs
people!' Unbelievable!

Page 379 Sec 1191: The Govt creates more bureaucracy via a "Tele-Health
Advisory Committee." (Can you say HC by phone?)

Page 425 Lines 4-12: The Govt mandates "Advance-Care Planning Consult."
(Think senior citizens end-of-life patients.)

Page 425 Lines 17-19: The Govt will instruct and consult regarding living
wills, durable powers of attorney, etc. (And it's mandatory!)*
*Page 425 Lines 22-25, 426 Lines 1-3: The Govt provides an "approved" list
of end-of-life resources; guiding you in death. (Also called 'assisted
suicide.')**(Sounds like Soylent Green to me.)
**
Page 427 Lines 15-24: The Govt mandates a program for orders on
"end-of-life." (The Govt has a say in how your life ends!)

Page 429 Lines 1-9: An "advanced-care planning consultant" will be used
frequently as a patient's health deteriorates.

Page 429 Lines 10-12: An "advanced care consultation" may include an ORDER
for end-of-life plans.. (AN ORDER TO DIE FROM THE GOVERNMENT?!?)
*
*Page 429 Lines 13-25: The GOVT will specify which doctors can write an
end-of-life order.. (I wouldn't want to stand before God after getting
paid for THAT job!)**
*
*Page 430 Lines 11-15: The Govt will decide what level of treatment you
will have at end-of-life! (Again -- no choice!)

Page 469: Community-Based Home Medical Services = Non-Profit
Organizations. (Hello? ACORN Medical Services here!?!)

Page 489 Sec 1308: The Govt will cover marriage and family therapy.
(Which means Govt will insert itself into your marriage even.)**
*
*Page 494-498: Govt will cover Mental Health Services including defining,
creating, and rationing those services.


Never mind that the same bill nationalizes student loans, and the bribes for votes imbedded, etc.
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Postby thomas_w_bowman » Wed May 12, 2010 5:30 am

Meanwhile - World Health Organization Moving Ahead on Billions in Internet and Other Taxes
http://www.foxnews.com/world/2010/05/10 ... latestnews
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Postby fussnfeathers » Wed May 12, 2010 7:09 am

Yup. My sister, an avid Obama supporter, and vocal as hell about it, can't seem to understand why her mother (64 and retiring next year with health problems) and her disabled brother are a little mad about this. She voted to give her family the shaft.
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Postby thomas_w_bowman » Fri May 14, 2010 5:09 am

But that (Health) Bill wasn't enough... it didn't 'outlaw certain foods'.

We've been 'saved' - from eating 'unapproved' Foods...S. 510, the Food Safety Modernization Act of 2010
Feds tell court they can decide what you eat
'Plaintiffs do not have a fundamental right to obtain any food they wish'
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=153133

- unless, of course - it's imported from Mexico...
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=153333
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Postby thomas_w_bowman » Mon Jun 28, 2010 8:03 am

Bank bailout cost solved - we'll just Tax the Banks (great unless you might be using a Bank - dya think they'll 'pass the $avings on to you ?"

Obama calls for bank tax as next step in reform
0.15% levy on liabilities to recoup costs to taxpayers of financial bailout
http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE65P0VP20100626

Biden's opinion...

Vice President Joe Biden caught on video calling custard shop manager a 'smarta--' after taxes quip
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politic ... marta.html
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