Pinging Oneself/Accessing Workgroup

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Pinging Oneself/Accessing Workgroup

Postby Mkoll » Wed Dec 30, 2009 12:47 pm

Hey guys, I'm trying to share files between a Windows 7 laptop and an XP one through my wireless router.

However I rediscovered a problem the XP laptop has had for some time: When I click View Workgroup Computers, I get the "___ is not accessible. You might not have permission to use...blah blah blah...The list of servers for this workgroup is not currently available"

I googled around and thus decided to ping my other computer, which worked, then I pinged myself...and got no response, creating a bizarre philosophical dilemma. Anyway, resetting tcp/ip did not work, my firewall is off, and I'm not sure what else to try. Hopefully if this computer can ping itself everything else will work out but we'll see.

Any ideas?
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Postby bdub » Wed Dec 30, 2009 1:00 pm

is the xp machine using a password to get into your profile? i found this to be needed to network my 7 machine to an xp machine before.
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Postby Mkoll » Wed Dec 30, 2009 1:26 pm

Well yeah, it is, but I'm not even worried about that now. The xp computer hasn't been able to connect to any other computer in a long time. Not even itself apparently. I saw your thread about this though.

Side note: I can't disable the wireless connection without going into Device Manager and turning off the card itself, so maybe it's a hardware problem. However I turned that off and plugged into an ethernet jack on a random hub I have and the ping still failed and it still excluded me from viewing the workgroup.
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Postby fussnfeathers » Wed Dec 30, 2009 2:21 pm

What versions of the OS? Just ruling a few things out.......

One thing to try is changing the type of Win 7 network. If you have it set to "Home" switch it to "Work". I had to to that for a couple of specific programs, and as a byproduct found that my mom's XP Home machine was able to access shared folders that way. Something I'm still poking at off and on.
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Postby evasive » Thu Dec 31, 2009 3:33 am

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/298804

this is pretty universal...
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Postby Mkoll » Thu Dec 31, 2009 9:39 pm

Firewall is off and having it on or off doesn't change anything. It'd be great if that was the problem.

OS is XP Service Pack 3. Thanks fussnfeathers for the tip about Home vs Work, but that's jumping ahead to when this computer can even see itself or its own network.
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Postby evasive » Fri Jan 01, 2010 6:33 am

it's off on the PCs yes but also in your router?
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Postby Mkoll » Fri Jan 01, 2010 9:18 am

Hmm...I suppose the router could be the problem, but I did try it on a different hub and got the same problem. Like I said this has been a long term thing, though various networks and routers.

Interestingly just putting in \\Computer Name in Explorer did work and I could see my shared files (and 8 shared printers what the hell) but clicking on anything gave an error about not having permission and the network path not found. Oh, and my other laptop couldn't ping this one either.
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Postby fussnfeathers » Fri Jan 01, 2010 9:23 am

XP Pro or Home?
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Postby Mkoll » Fri Jan 01, 2010 5:10 pm

Oh it's XP Home, sorry for not mentioning that.
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