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Karlsweldt · Posted: Mon Feb 23, 2009 3:50 pm Post subject:

Woes upon woes!
Finally got the new caps to put in, and now I discover that seven more caps are bad! They are 1500 mfd. 6.3 volts, right by the CPU!! Same brand!

AAARRRGGGHHH!

Edit:
Finally got all the caps I needed for this board. Now for time (and patience!) to replace them.
Found a source on eBay that has quite a good variety of caps and very nice prices.. Time Sensitive Components Inc. You can also order direct via Email to: sales@timesc.com . Don't ask about mobo versions.. ask only for the specific caps and quantity you need.
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6volt · Initiate Joined: 16 May 2003 Posts: 48

Dell GX240
Gigabyte GA-7vkmls

evasive · Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2009 9:41 pm Post subject:

The Optiplex GX240 too?!? Hell I know a few places with serious swapping troubles now...
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evasive · Posted: Sat Mar 07, 2009 9:30 am Post subject:

Alright. Even though I'm not planning to make a daytime job out of it, I officially recapped my first board and it works cool

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Karlsweldt · Posted: Sat Mar 07, 2009 1:33 pm Post subject:

evasive · Posted: Sat Mar 21, 2009 12:34 pm Post subject:

recapped the other two as well. Indeed, once you got your first one working it gets easier.

edit: the second one is working as well cool

I have to add another victim though: MSI MS-6168 VER:2 as found in some Packard Bell systems. Affected caps are branded "Chhsi" and "JPCON". I'll post pics of them once they're out of the board.

edit2: My AV49N is working as well. 3 out of 3
edit 3: The MS-6168 was restored to business with some salvaged good caps from other boards (Sanyo). 4 out of 4
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evasive · Posted: Tue May 19, 2009 11:45 am Post subject:

List of bad caps brands:

Arcon
Asiacon
Asia-x
Canicon
Capxon
Chhsi
Choyo
CTC
DST
Elgen
Fuh Yin
Fuhjyyu
Fujitsu
Gloria
G-Luxon
GL
GSC = Evercon = Sacon = Apsun
Hec = Fulltec
Hermei
I.Q.
Jackcon
Jamicon
JDEC
Jee
Jpcon
Jun Fu
Lelon
Ltec
Licon
Nkcon
Nrsy
OST
Partsnic
JPce-tur/Pce-tur
Raycon
Rubysun
Rulycon
Skywell
Stone
Supacon
Su'scon
Taicon
Tayeh
Teapo
TMS
Tocon
Vent
Wendell
Yec

From:
http://capsmod.net/forum/viewthread.php?tid=19&extra=page%3D1

Here comes the fun bit. I have 4 boards here. A Foxconn, a MSI, an Asrock and an Albatron. Only the Albatron has no known listed bad caps on it. To give you an idea of the extent this is going into.

All Soltek boards are bad.
All Jetway boards are bad.
Many Shuttle boards are bad.
Many Asrock boards are bad.
Many MSI boards have bad caps. Not completely but they have bad caps.

The more I read about this stuff, the angrier I get...
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Karlsweldt · Posted: Thu May 21, 2009 5:40 am Post subject:

Quite a list! And it isn't limited to motherboards or PSU circuit boards. All of the electronics industry has had problems with the "bad caps" syndrome! Lets you realize why NASA and other agencies demand only the 'best' of any product!
There were some incidents of mis-labeled caps that failed due to heat or over-voltage conditions. But this plague was caused by espionage and a faulty formula. Hope that the person(s) responsible have suffered ruefully.
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Mr T · Posted: Thu May 21, 2009 5:46 am Post subject:

Point is, is the mainboard suppliers aren't bothred as they look at the motherboard as a disposable item..... If you notice, no laptop motherboards there - I have not seen a bad one on the many laptops I have looked at... Why? Laptop motherboards have a shorter manufacture 'run' compared to desktop boards, so less are produced, also capaictors seem smaller to fit in to the chassis compared to desktops...(plus of course the usual voltages etc...)...
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evasive · Posted: Fri May 22, 2009 12:56 am Post subject:

can't use electrolytics in laptop because of the size. Usually using solid or tantalum. Since laptop are expensive to begin with, they're using more expensive kinds and brands of caps too.
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