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tedybear Black Belt 5th Degree


Joined: 14 Feb 2004 Posts: 7251 Location: Fulton, New York, on Earth
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Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 2:06 pm Post subject: Access to "hidden" recovery drive |
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Ok campers. I've got a major headache I just finished with.
Working with a "Compaq/HP" big mean box computer at my folks place. I managed to clear the garbage and a nasty virus from the system, however there is still a major issue where it will kick up a flag that says the "D" drive is almost full, please click here to free up space...blah blah blah.
The drive it is talking about is actually the hidden drive built into the main "C" drive that holds the entire system recovery files. Under properties of the drive it is supposedly set for "read only", and is under extreme heavy security. The only way I managed to figure out why it was "empty" for free space? I ran AVG on the hidden part of the drive and watched it work.
Everything was normal until it hit a part of the i386 folder. Seems every internet based game ever downloaded? All the "Setup" programs somehow got installed to that drive as well into one of it's sub-directories, and it hogged up some crazy real estate on that partition. Seriously..I was watching it scan, when I spotted the game "Fate" and the "FateUpdate" kick on the screen as being scanned?!?? And yeah I'm sure I was scanning in the partitioned drive supposed to be "read only" according to properties.
There has to be at least 20-30 games and such stored in there. I am at a total loss as to how anything could have written to that section of the drive, heck--says it's read only!
Now I did the usual stuff, went into properties and turned off the read-only part and all that for what I figured was the entire partitioned drive. However there is no way I can find to access that drive in order to delete those old game setup downloads. Tried under 'my computer' and it kicked up a warning with a "locked padlock" on it, and denies all access. (same under system management, even under admin) Same with using the command prompt--I can access the drive, and the listing states "RECOVERY". But it appears empty with "Zero" space used, and no sub-directories.
The only way to get rid of the "low warning" for the partition would be for me to access it, and trash-can those game setup files. As we all know? Those files can be HUGE in size.
I managed to get the rest of the system working better, something "hidden" was enabled in the startup menu--Thanks to the virus that was on the computer, MSCONFIG (2 copies??) both where found in the virus vault infected. So I downloaded MSCONFIG from a website and used it to disable the item in the startup files that had no information listed. Kinda like a ghost? But once I unchecked the box and restarted? The system was about 80% faster. Plus a first time install of spybot updated? Took an hour to clean out the internet trash.
So any ideas on how to get into that drive and nuke out the game setup files? Once that's done the system should be back to full normal again.
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Karlsweldt Enlightened Master


Joined: 12 Nov 2003 Posts: 18571 Location: 07438
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Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 6:33 pm Post subject: |
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Thick gray area here. About the only advice that can be given is to start up in 'Administrator' mode, and see if permission is provided for access.
A virus gives no heed to "No Trespassing" signs.. and can infect even secured drives and folders.
When files are zero-length in content, each will take 512 bytes of space per sector. If you have a high count of these "no content" listings, then a drive or partition can be empty.. but the FAT listings show otherwise. _________________ F@H.. to solve mankind's maladies.. in our lifetimes! |
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tedybear Black Belt 5th Degree


Joined: 14 Feb 2004 Posts: 7251 Location: Fulton, New York, on Earth
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Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 6:47 pm Post subject: |
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| Karlsweldt wrote: | Thick gray area here. About the only advice that can be given is to start up in 'Administrator' mode, and see if permission is provided for access.
A virus gives no heed to "No Trespassing" signs.. and can infect even secured drives and folders.
When files are zero-length in content, each will take 512 bytes of space per sector. If you have a high count of these "no content" listings, then a drive or partition can be empty.. but the FAT listings show otherwise. |
Not really a 'gray' area, as I'm not asking for keys/passwords/or anything ownership related.
Simply put?
My nephew was staying with my mom and step dad for a few months. He was using the computer downloading games. From what I could tell from the AVG scan I did on the hidden drive? Looks like all the downloaded "setup" files wound up on the hidden drive that is supposed to be used only for system recovery. (AVG nailed the virus, just had to re-install a few key windows programs it infected and "vaulted" for safety)
This one has me scratchin' the noggin. I attempted using admin in safe mode. Hit the CMD option to get the prompt up. That partitioned drive shows nadda thing, nor any sub-directories. However AVG's scan revealed the hidden recovery files--along with a slew of downloaded games. How they wound up in a "Read-Only" partition is beyond me?
Right now the computer is running pretty fast! (about 30x faster then when I started working on it) However it still kicks up the warning the drive (only the partitioned drive) is running very low on disk space.
The only thing I need to do? Is access that partition and delete the game setup files to free up the needed space.
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evasive Mobo-fu Master


Joined: 06 May 2001 Posts: 36382 Location: Netherlands, Breda
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Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 12:54 am Post subject: |
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Tried an Ubuntu liveCD? _________________ We hate rut, but we fear change.
System error, strike any user to continue... |
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tedybear Black Belt 5th Degree


Joined: 14 Feb 2004 Posts: 7251 Location: Fulton, New York, on Earth
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Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 4:54 am Post subject: |
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| evasive wrote: | | Tried an Ubuntu liveCD? |
Totally lost me on that one Evasive.
(not that it's to hard to confuse me lately)
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Mr T Enlightened Master


Joined: 14 Jun 2002 Posts: 16642 Location: England
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Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 10:38 am Post subject: |
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Download Ubuntu linux from here as an .iso... Burn it to CD, then boot the PC with it, then using its partition manager, access the hidden partition and free up all the c**p... _________________ I have been programming on computers since the ZX81.
I am an apprentice trained Electronics Engineer with qualifications to back it up.
I have been repairing computers since 1996.
Yet to some people I still know nothing... |
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tedybear Black Belt 5th Degree


Joined: 14 Feb 2004 Posts: 7251 Location: Fulton, New York, on Earth
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Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 4:23 pm Post subject: |
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| Mr T wrote: | | Download Ubuntu linux from here as an .iso... Burn it to CD, then boot the PC with it, then using its partition manager, access the hidden partition and free up all the c**p... |
Ahh, ok. Now I got it.
(I'd love to know how in the heck all those game setup files wound up on that partition in the first place LOL)
I'll be over at the folks place coming on Sunday again. I'll do some reading up on basic linux and get it taken care of.
Thanks!!
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evasive Mobo-fu Master


Joined: 06 May 2001 Posts: 36382 Location: Netherlands, Breda
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Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 3:42 am Post subject: |
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| tedybear wrote: | | evasive wrote: | | Tried an Ubuntu liveCD? |
Totally lost me on that one Evasive.
(not that it's to hard to confuse me lately)
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My bad, these days I'm expecting anybody to know what Ubuntu or Linux is  _________________ We hate rut, but we fear change.
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