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I'm new to overclocking and I need some answers.

Postby Boge42 » Thu Jan 18, 2007 11:59 am

I just ordered:

e6300 Dual Core
Gigabyte DS3 motherboard
1 gig Corsair DDR800 5-5-5-12
Arctic Cooling Freezer CPU fan

I heard the 6300 overclocks good and I know a lot of people have used the DS3 board for this. I've never done any overclocking and I'm wondering about what kind of speeds I could get with this hardware. Is there something I should change or add? Is there is a step by step layout I could follow to get it done?

Thanks.
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Postby Boge42 » Mon Jan 22, 2007 9:38 pm

I'm starting to feel lonely here. I could use some answers.

I finally got my parts:

e6300 Dual Core
Gigabyte DS3 Rev 1.0
Corsair DDR800 5-5-5-12 1 gig chip
Arctic Freezer 7 Pro

I've played with overclocking just a little so far. I'm concerned about the temperature. With this cooler, I'm sitting around 40c idle and high 40s with load. I overclocked to 2.33ghz and it was up to 58c idle.

What kind of temperatures should I be looking at and how can I keep them low with increasing the clock speed?
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Postby Sabrewings » Mon Jan 22, 2007 9:42 pm

If you're at 58C idle, I'd already say that's too high.

Boge42 wrote:how can I keep them low with increasing the clock speed?


Buy a better cooler. If you've raised the voltage, try dropping it back down a notch. If not, what you see is what you get.
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Postby Boge42 » Tue Jan 23, 2007 12:31 am

I've been running the Prime95 Stress test Blend

My clock settings are at normal 1.86, all default settings in the bios with the freezer pro and the normal grease that comes on that fan.

The temps in Core Temp are at 56c during this test.

Don't people get lower temps with the stock fan? Is my case a pile or is the fan I have a pile? I'm in a cold room with 5 other fans in my case, 2 in front, 2 in back, one on the side, and then of course the CPU cooler.

People say this chip is good for overclocking, but are they just not telling that you have to spend $300 for a case with super water cooling stuff?



What temperatures would I be safe at during idle and high load?
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Postby ajrox » Wed Jan 24, 2007 10:56 am

i would NOT go any higher than you are allready at, at least not with out droping your temps to the mid 40's at a full load. you might need a shroud to pull air from out side your case directly to the CPU cooler fan. i dropped 12* F off my temps doing that. and i did it by using everyones best friend, duct tape, card board andd plastic water bottles. look ghetto at first, but then i used the card board as a template and created another, cleaner version from black foam board.
i dont have any recent pics as i have had to move to mississippi and back again in just a month so everthing is in storage. but here is a little trick, fans normally push air through the fins. if you create an intake shroud that pushes air, you might make an exhaust shroud that pulls air out of the CPU heat sink. that is how i got my temps to drop dramatically.
you might also feel your memory for over heating as well. i know mine was blazing as hot as the rest of the case so i used doubled sided tape to hold a fan right where it need to be to blow across my memory. shaved off more heat and pushed my overclock that much farther.
with air, depending on the ambient temp and humidity of where the PC sits, you will never see better than 10 or 15 degrees F over room temp. so keep that in mind as a goal to try and hit.
the dirtier the CPU heatsink and the blades of the fans pushing / pulling air across the CPU heatsink, the worse your temps will get. so it is a good idea to check your system temps every few days as it will clue you in to when you need to clean your case.
my temps on my PC in my sig 95-98 F @ idle and 103 to 105 F @ load.
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Postby Boge42 » Wed Jan 24, 2007 12:21 pm

Thanks. I like the "ghetto" information you gave me, but I don't really understand this "shroud" you are talking about.

Lately the temps are around 33-34c idle and about 45 under load.

My room temperature is very cool. I'd guess between 55 and 60 normally. I have the CPU fan on auto, should that be going full all the time?

Does the case make that big a difference? I've had this case for about 2 1/2 years and it was about $60. I can't remember if it had a power supply or not. I don't think so.

I've got 5 fans in there all blowing in to the case other than the rear. The freezer CPU fan is pointing towards the rear fans as well.

Right now I'm just using the stock thermal grease that was on the fan. Would Arctic Silver 5 make a big difference?

I hear that letting the grease sink in for about a week of use will help cool it as well. Is this true?

What temperatures do I need to be at before I could expect an overclock of, say 3.0ghz?

Why are people so easily getting 3.0ghz with a stock fan and I can't get close to that with this aftermarket fan?
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Postby Sabrewings » Wed Jan 24, 2007 12:38 pm

Boge42 wrote:Why are people so easily getting 3.0ghz with a stock fan and I can't get close to that with this aftermarket fan?


Different batches of chips overclock differently. If they all ran at 3ghz, Intel would sell them at 3ghz. :wink:
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Postby Boge42 » Wed Jan 24, 2007 3:24 pm

So I just got one of the bad batches of chips? Why bother buying a certain chip then if you get shafted every time anyway? Dangit!
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Postby filecore » Thu Mar 29, 2007 11:26 am

Be very careful with your case setup - more fans is not necessarily good if they're pushing and pulling against each other and creating 'dead' zones of air that's going nowhere in particular, or if you've pulling warm air over cooler components. Make sure your airflow is optimal and it'll knock several degrees off your overall temperatures. Check this, for example: http://www.short-media.com/articles/pc_ ... ling_guide and stuff like http://www.nexustek.nl/images/nexus_breeze_ill.gif
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Postby beaconengr » Mon Apr 09, 2007 4:04 pm

Take your cpu fan off auto and let it run full speed all the time. Some of these 5 cent temp sensors worry me, and there is no need for your cpu to run hotter than it needs to at any time.
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