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PostPosted: Fri Jun 28, 2002 10:18 am 
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I hope Intel keeps making them! They rock and they are cheap (for us poor folk.)! I don't like the 'new' Celeron based on the .18m Willamette Pentium4 at all! The performance is terrible!
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 24, 2002 11:54 am 
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To each his own. I agree with your hypothesis on the Celeron chips as I have freinds who have said the same.

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 27, 2002 8:50 am 
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As long as Intel keeps making Tualatin PIII's with 512k cache we should still see some Tualatin Celerons with 256k cache on the market.

Why?

Because Intel has historically used PIII's that have come out of the manufacturing process with faulty cache as the basis for making Celeron chips. My understanding is that half the on-board cache is simply disabled, including the faulty components, and the chip becomes a Celeron.

They did this when PIII's were 256k cache and the Celerons were 128k, they are doing this now with the Tualatin PIII's with 512k cache and the Tualatin Celerons with 256k cache and they are also doing it with the new P4 Celerons. My guess is that while Intel was manufacturing the P4 1.8 micron chips with 256k cache they were stockpiling the ones with faulty on-board cache and now these are being sold as P4 Celerons with 128k cache.

Now that the P4 has moved to .13 micron with 512k cache you can expect the P4 Celeron to follow, moving to .13 micron with 256k cache unless they decide to keep them at 128k by disabling three quarters of the on-board cache instead of only half. That would certainly give them higher yields.

Getting back to the Tualatin Celerons and their relationship to the Tualatin PIII's, it certainly looks promising that these chips will be around for a while as Intel has the PIII Tualatin on its roadmaps right into 2004.

http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=4644

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the Pentium III-S/512K cache chips have a long life ahead of them -- being in the same segment until at least the second half of 2004.


The question is will Intel continue to market these PIII's with faulty/disabled cache as Celerons or will they just trash them?


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 31, 2002 9:37 am 
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Burn Intel.

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burn amd burn

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burn amd burn


What'll we all use then? VIA C3's?

Come on, somebody say it now - burn VIA burn. :lol: :lol:

Then all we'd be left with is Apples. YUK YUK YUK.


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burn everything burn lol

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Wow, we seem to have a bunch of piros here...
I wonder if that would be hazardous if MoboCop ever decided to have a Motherboards.org bonfire...
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Wow, we seem to have a bunch of piros here...
I wonder if that would be hazardous if MoboCop ever decided to have a Motherboards.org bonfire...
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Ouch!!!

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 08, 2002 9:11 am 
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I find it funny that people want Intel to burn. I wonder what the reason for that is? Do you realize what computers would be like without intel.

think about it.

Lets thank AMD for bringing the prices down to reasonable levels, but Intel is still king, and according to my experience makes a much more stable(and compatible) processor.

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