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PostPosted: Wed Sep 15, 2010 10:14 am 
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Stephen's 3 month tour of Europe has gone pear shaped right at the start - timer belt on the van has gone in Rotterdam and although there's a slim chance it might be a quick fix, worst case is new engine needed [ie. van written off] and tour aborted...

They're hoping and praying it's a quick fix - or that someone can lend them a van for three months... or anything...

It's a long shot, but I'm posting this on here on the grounds that if you don't ask... :-)

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I feel your anguish. There are two types of vehicle engines.. the "interference" type and the "non-interference" type. The first type is where the pistons come up into the area where the overhead valves would be open, but the timing belt (or chain) prevents that collision from happening. Most modern engines are the "interference" type. The other type of engines ("non-interference") have a generous space above the piston, so if the valves are open, there is no contact. The life of a timing belt is about 40,000 miles (64,373 km) depending on engine use and service (maintenance). Chain-type timing belts can last several hundred thousand miles.
Had done some work on several engines that popped a timing belt.. and it was less involved to replace the engine. Otherwise, new valves and pistons (and possibly connecting rods) will be needed.
But take heart, pulling just the engine head will tell the true tale. Or contact the manufacturer of the engine for details on this phenomenon.

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Was wondering how the timing belt episode turned out. Hope your son was able to continue his tour.

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Yes - cost them ~£800 to get the van fully back on the road again. Currently in Greece [I think - they're hopping around all over the place]

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What make and type of van was it?

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Um... it has four wheels and an engine... presume it was a Ford as they had to take it to the Ford dealership... :-)

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~PJ~ wrote:
Um... it has four wheels and an engine... presume it was a Ford as they had to take it to the Ford dealership... :-)


WHAT NO SEATS! lol

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Yes - cost them ~£800 to get the van fully back on the road again.
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Wow! A bit of unexpected expense, equals around $1320.00 USD!! But with the majority of vehicle engines, they are the 'interference' type.. and when that belt fails, severe damage ensues. But a dealership is sometimes the best choice for such repairs.

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makes me happy to have that 100k warranty on my timing chain in the Corolla. At least when the Volvo's belt would break (which it would at 30k miles) the engine would just stop, no damage.

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A lot goes on how you treat the vehicle... Our vans belt went due to one if the idiots who drove (not me) constantly thrashed it, before running into some ones rear end... Had it all repaired and a few months later at the most awkward of opportunities the timing belt went.. (All I can say was lucky we weren't on the outside lane of the motorway).. Vauxhall (Chrysler) wanted to charge £4k for an engine rebuild... Told them to **** off and sued 'cos they started work without authorisation (yeah that was another story).. Got the engine rebuilt for £460... Guy who did it said he saw a lot of those types of vans with timing belts gone.... (Previous to that, when I was driving, clutch cable went - that was also a manufacturers recall fault, however the recall warranty had expired by then)... Had to borrow a Ford Transit from some ones mate who was a builder (imagine the state of that one), but it drove pretty sweet...

All I'll say on old er vehicles, don't thrash 'em and you'll get your moneys worth out of it... Timing belts should last up to 90K without a change, but it is always wise to change them at set services ie £90 to change over a lot for an engine rebuild...

PJ, glad your son got it sorted, at least it shouldn't go again...

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