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finding usb 3 add in card...

Postby bdub » Mon Sep 19, 2016 12:58 pm

can anyone help me find a pci-e add on card that has (1) usb 3.1 type-c external port, and (1) usb 3.0 or 3.1 type-a internal port.
if there's an extra type-a or type-c external port, that would be fine.
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Re: finding usb 3 add in card...

Postby Karlsweldt » Mon Sep 19, 2016 3:42 pm

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Re: finding usb 3 add in card...

Postby bdub » Tue Sep 20, 2016 5:21 am

sure, but I saw nothing with at least one external usb3.1 type-c connector AND an internal usb 3.0 or 3.1 type-a connector.
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Re: finding usb 3 add in card...

Postby bdub » Tue Sep 20, 2016 5:35 am

this was the closest I found...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... -_-Product
it would be fine except there's no external type-c connector.

what are the advantages of the type-c connector compared to type-a, besides the reversibility?
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Re: finding usb 3 add in card...

Postby bdub » Tue Sep 20, 2016 6:41 am

aha!
http://www.sybausa.com/index.php?route= ... Y-PEX20203

although there is a question as to if this card is usb3.1 or not, but it does have internal and external connectors of the type I want.
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antec neo he 650r
Samsung 840 EVo SSD 120 GB
toshiba 2TB HDD 64M cache sata3
seagate 1TB HDD 64M cache sata3
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Re: finding usb 3 add in card...

Postby Karlsweldt » Tue Sep 20, 2016 3:18 pm

USB "A" is the old standard. USB "C" is the newer, 'future-proof' standard.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USB_Type-C
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Re: finding usb 3 add in card...

Postby bdub » Fri Sep 23, 2016 11:43 am

I guess my real question, which I can't find out the answer for is... can the older type-a fitted "3.1" connectors do 10 gbps? or are they just legacy connectors not really intended to reach full bandwidth?
this is why I perceive I need to have type-c connectors.
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Re: finding usb 3 add in card...

Postby Karlsweldt » Fri Sep 23, 2016 3:05 pm

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Re: finding usb 3 add in card...

Postby bdub » Mon Sep 26, 2016 6:10 am

Karlsweldt wrote:http://www.tomshardware.com/news/usb-31-usb-type-c-refresher,29933.html


terrific article, thanks. the answer to my question may be found in there.... or not.

can type-a connectors do the theoretical 10 gbps, or not? can they even do 5 gbps?

correct me if I'm wrong, but 5 gb/s is equivalent of 625 megabytes/second... which is pretty high for even most current sata ssd's. I've seen some usb 3.0 type-a connectors send almost 250 MB/s through to externally attached ssd's before, so I know it can go that fast... but 10 gbps is over a GB/s! how can that same type-a connector do that kind of speed?!!!
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Re: finding usb 3 add in card...

Postby Karlsweldt » Mon Sep 26, 2016 3:24 pm

Throwing text or images on screen has the least overhead or intensive needs for data transfer. But a hard drive needs a write-back or write-through cache to allow a more constant data flow. The faster the platter spins, the larger the write cache, the better for getting near maximum performance.
If only one host communicating on one USB port, then the data flow should be near max. But if two hosts on one USB port, then data flow is roughly 1/2 max to each.

One old rule has not changed, 8 bits equals one byte, so 5 Gb/s divided by 8 = 78.12500 MB/s (per Google)
https://www.gbmb.org/gb-to-mb
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