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PostPosted: Sat May 02, 2015 1:34 am 
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As much as I love Windows XP64 I can't stay with it for ever...
updates, programs I use are slowly leaving XP behind..
Firefox v38 will FINALLY release the 64 bit version AT LAST!!
BUT!!!
it will be Win7 or newer do to optimizations they did....

The features differences I know of can be read here...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_7_editions


eBay DEAL!! ^_^ 8) (many copies have been sold of each so the offers are LEGIT!! ^_^ =D)
http://www.ebay.com/itm/371246306496 <-- Win7-Pro (x64)
http://www.ebay.com/itm/271857370104 <-- Win7-ULTIMATE (x86 & x64)


oohh what to do...
Then there is the distance for the item to travel.... (I live in New Hampshire)
Professional = Stoughton, Massachusetts
Ultimate = Bakersfield, California


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PostPosted: Sat May 02, 2015 5:00 am 
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Win 7 is on the "retirement" list. Win 8 still has a few years of full service.
http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/lifecycle
For all the revisions, rewrites, modifications, it is time for a 'clean slate' so to speak.
But a 64-bit OS is becoming standard. Almost all 32-bit programming should be compatible, with few issues.
Older "legacy" features are no longer in vogue. And any 16-bit programming may have problems.
A motherboard and a CPU designed for 64-bit use can run both 32-bit and 64-bit OS types.

But a caution with any offer of an OS install package:
1) Is a genuine Apple® or Microsoft® issue, not a clone or copy! Same for other OS types.
2) New, never installed, has the unused, matching COA.

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PostPosted: Sat May 02, 2015 5:43 am 
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Thx Karl, but I know all that except for the "Windows lifecycle fact sheet " thx for that bit of info...

I prefer XP overall....

I find Windows 7 barely tolerable with the use of the programs I mentioned in my other tread...

but I cannot stand Win8 the Metro UI is poison to my eyes so to speak....
so Win7 is the only one I would even consider updating too...

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PostPosted: Tue May 05, 2015 10:33 am 
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I find MS$ windows barely tolerable these days... I would look past windows 7 and go windows 8 (ignore all whinging about that, it works well).. Or wait and get windows 10 which looks good... However, depending on what programs you use, try out Linux - free and these days simple to use...

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PostPosted: Tue May 05, 2015 10:46 am 
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Mr T wrote:
I find MS$ windows barely tolerable these days... I would look past windows 7 and go windows 8 (ignore all whinging about that, it works well).. Or wait and get windows 10 which looks good... However, depending on what programs you use, try out Linux - free and these days simple to use...


While windows 8 and 10 will be "new"
I cannot stand the Metro UI its Poison to my eyes *_* !_!...

Metro is a tablet UI more so...
so Win8 is out and since they retained Metro in Windows 10, or at least some of it even on the Desktop OS... so no chance there either....

and Linux... it uses the UNIX architecture...
so it is missing so many things that makes Windows better...
except for the fact its open-source I do love open source ^_^

Windows 7 is pretty much my only viable option if I want to upgraded at all....

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joe_devore wrote:
Mr T wrote:
I find MS$ windows barely tolerable these days... I would look past windows 7 and go windows 8 (ignore all whinging about that, it works well).. Or wait and get windows 10 which looks good... However, depending on what programs you use, try out Linux - free and these days simple to use...


While windows 8 and 10 will be "new"
I cannot stand the Metro UI its Poison to my eyes *_* !_!...

Metro is a tablet UI more so...
so Win8 is out and since they retained Metro in Windows 10, or at least some of it even on the Desktop OS... so no chance there either....

and Linux... it uses the UNIX architecture...
so it is missing so many things that makes Windows better...
except for the fact its open-source I do love open source ^_^

Windows 7 is pretty much my only viable option if I want to upgraded at all....


I don't know that I've seen somebody dislike so much about everything available...

Win7 is hardly much different than XP...the considerable differences are things you would never really even use(based on your previous posts), so I really don't get what your major complaints are about it. having issue with Metro is fine and all, but...to be honest, there's very little you NEED to even use it for. Windows functionality is available outside of it very easily. My 60-year old mother adapted to it easily enough, and I can just about guarantee she's more picky about changes than most.

just get your Win7, wait till Win10 comes for free and upgrade to that. You won't spend extra $$, you'll get your functionality, and you'll be on the newest platform of Windows(avoiding your UNIX dislike) for a considerable number of years into the future.

you won't need ultimate. professional will give you everything you'll want.

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PostPosted: Wed May 06, 2015 1:13 am 
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Roach412 wrote:
just get your Win7, wait till Win10 comes for free and upgrade to that. You won't spend extra $$, you'll get your functionality, and you'll be on the newest platform of Windows(avoiding your UNIX dislike) for a considerable number of years into the future.

you won't need ultimate. professional will give you everything you'll want.

-Roach

Agree completely...well said here Roach.

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_7_editions


These are the features the interest me about Windows 7 Ultimate:
- Subsystem for Unix-based Applications
- Supports Multilingual User Interface packages
- Switching between any of the 37 available languages[50]

while I only know a few words in a handful of other languages...
so I really don't "need" that feature... it would be a handy one if ever got around to to learning another language... that is being able to switch the WHOLE UI's language with the click of a button ^_^.....

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PostPosted: Wed May 06, 2015 6:43 am 
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the problem with ultimate is that the computers can´t be attach to a domain, so it´s messy if u have ur network configured trough a domain

I prefer PRO

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PostPosted: Wed May 06, 2015 8:10 am 
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joe_devore wrote:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_7_editions


These are the features the interest me about Windows 7 Ultimate:
- Subsystem for Unix-based Applications
- Supports Multilingual User Interface packages
- Switching between any of the 37 available languages[50]

while I only know a few words in a handful of other languages...
so I really don't "need" that feature... it would be a handy one if ever got around to to learning another language... that is being able to switch the WHOLE UI's language with the click of a button ^_^.....


I thought you didn't like UNIX, so I'm not sure why you're pulling in UNIX functionality into windows - just dual-boot it. merging those ecosystems is really an enterprise-level thing. single users would probably benefit more from standalone instances. you also could virtualize something if you really need access to some sort of *NIX shell.

There are a number of language packs you can download and install on Win7Pro. granted they're not as simple as ultimate/enterprise - you'll need to apply them manually. however, all of this will probably be a moot point when Win10 releases. you'll get your upgrade and most-likely have full language support, similar to ultimate/enterprise - without the need to DISM language changes.

I think you really need to figure out what your true "needs" are and what your true "wants" are. until you have those defined confidently, you're going to find yourself flip-flopping. from my external view, get Win7Pro64 now, upgrade the Win10 in a few months...and be done with the decision. your most-likely largest issue will be the *NIX part...but, there's lots of alternatives and options to handle that requirement. lots of users have had that same problem.

-Roach

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