ATX motherboard to upgrade from pentium 4 631 CPU

Not sure what to buy? Ask here for some free advice.

Moderator: The Mod Squad

Postby ejames82 » Tue Feb 19, 2013 1:29 pm

Hello Karlsweldt, glad to have you chime in and also always glad to have Hardware Junkie as well keeping an eye on my thread.

here is a few pictures of the case hosted at tinypic, a reputable website.


1
http://i48.tinypic.com/2uxtdzq.jpg

2
http://i48.tinypic.com/fuanoh.jpg

3
http://i46.tinypic.com/35lfbqp.jpg

4
http://i45.tinypic.com/10qvq4g.jpg

5
http://i50.tinypic.com/2s1orad.jpg

6
http://i46.tinypic.com/i6b7md.jpg


it appears that you both are correct in that an ATX board won't work (the case has to be tall to provide the extra space for the extra size of the ATX board). there is only four back plane slots. I am not insistent on using that sr1710nx case (I'd like to, but it's not a deal breaker). I have other old cases, unfortunately they are probably the previous standard (I believe it was called AT). If I need to I will come up with a case from ebay or craigslist. getting a board that is going to make me happy and be a bargain is top of the list. this is one that I really like. of course it is ATX.

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications ... =A455-2042

I think connecting the on/off switch and lights will be a piece of cake. when I decide on a board I will inform you guys and give you whatever info I can

If I was to choose THIS asus board, does it have 'dual channel', where you want two exact memory sticks to get optimum performance (though I know you should always get matching sticks anyway)? it doesn't appear that they mention that in the ad.

thanks for the replies.
ejames82
Initiate
Initiate
 
Posts: 24
Joined: Fri Aug 17, 2012 4:39 pm

Postby evasive » Wed Feb 20, 2013 1:27 am

That Compaq case is microATX. Notice the motherboard picture on the right, the screwholes locations on the right (those are on the left in your first picture).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MicroATX
We hate rut, but we fear change.
********************************
System error, strike any user to continue...
evasive
Mobo-fu Master
Mobo-fu Master
 
Posts: 37389
Joined: Sun May 06, 2001 12:01 am
Location: Netherlands

Postby Hardware Junkie » Wed Feb 20, 2013 7:44 am

ejames82 wrote:If I was to choose THIS asus board, does it have 'dual channel', where you want two exact memory sticks to get optimum performance (though I know you should always get matching sticks anyway)? it doesn't appear that they mention that in the ad.


2-channel (4 DIMM) DDR3 memory
http://www.asus.com/Motherboard/P8Z77V/
"Imagination is the only weapon in the war against reality." -Jules de Gautier

Image
Hardware Junkie
Mobo-fu Master
Mobo-fu Master
 
Posts: 19405
Joined: Thu Jan 25, 2001 1:01 am
Location: 00000h - 0000Fh

Postby Karlsweldt » Wed Feb 20, 2013 8:50 am

If you are looking to replace the motherboard and case, consider some of the "bare bones" offers at www.newegg.com/ which are not too pricey. Versions range from a case with board and PSU to nearly complete units. Other on-line sites also offer similar deals. And check out the "open box" specials!
With small cases, you may be limited to specific replacement parts.. such as the PSU. And the basket for drives may intrude on the space needed for the CPU heatsink/fan or memory!
F@H.. to solve mankind's maladies.. in our lifetimes!
Karlsweldt
Mobo-fu Master
Mobo-fu Master
 
Posts: 20711
Joined: Wed Nov 12, 2003 11:57 am
Location: 07438

Postby ejames82 » Fri Feb 22, 2013 6:43 pm

it's good to have evasive here as well.

I have considered and appreciate all replies. glad to hear from you.

I spent days looking for an ATX case and I had no idea it would be so stressful. I know there are some great new ATX cases out there, but the cost is way, way more than I anticipated. to find a case built as solid as this sr1710nx would cost (in my estimation) $150 or more. the $60 or less cases get bad reviews on tigerdirect and newegg and are described as 'cheap' and 'flimsy'. there were alot more negative comments, but I'm sure you guys already know what they say.

tonight I made a purchase of:
MSI Z77MA-G45

it's microATX, so it should fit in the sr1710nx case, has usb 3.0 that I really want, and should support some excellent processors. I haven't purchased anything else yet, but I did also purchase three year warranty coverage for an extra $18. I just want to get the board and fit it in the case and take it from there. see what we have to work with and take it from the ground up.

I checked out the ram for this board. I knew it wouldn't be cheap (but actually it is per Gb in comparison to the pc3200 and pc2700 sticks that I purchased for other computers). 32gb of DDR3 ram can be purchased for less than $200 (which would max this board out), so that's about $6 per Gb.

it will take a few days for the board to get here. when it does I will put up some pics of the board in the case.
ejames82
Initiate
Initiate
 
Posts: 24
Joined: Fri Aug 17, 2012 4:39 pm

Postby Toby B. » Fri Feb 22, 2013 7:29 pm

The board itself used in the hp/compaq cased specified is a micro-ATX board.. As mentioned highly unlikely a full sized ATX board is gonna fit in that case..

here is the board information:
http://www.ctechinfo.net/boards/asus/amberinem.php
Toby B.
Lead Mobo-fu Master
Lead Mobo-fu Master
 
Posts: 14277
Joined: Sun Dec 16, 2001 1:01 am
Location: Maine

Postby ejames82 » Sat Feb 23, 2013 6:50 am

Hello Tony B.,

good to have you with us

sorry for the misunderstanding. this is the board I will be using:
http://www.msi.com/product/mb/Z77MA-G45.html

Socket 1155
CPU (Max Support) i7
FSB/BCLK/Hyper Transport Bus 100MHz
Chipset Intel® Z77
DDR3 Memory 1066/1333/1600/1866*/2000*/2133*(OC), 2200*/2400*/2600*/2667*/2800*(OC, 22nm CPU required)
Memory Channel Dual
DIMM Slots 4
Max Memory (GB) 32
PCI-Ex16 2
PCI-E Gen Gen3 (16); (8, 8)
PCI-Ex1 2
SATAIII 2
SATAII 4
RAID 0/1/5/10
LAN 10/100/1000*1
TPM Y
USB 3.0 ports (Rear) 2
USB 2.0 ports (Rear) 6
Audio ports (Rear) 6
VGA 1
HDMI 1
DVI 1
VGA Max Share Memory (MB) 1760
DirectX 11
Form Factor M-ATX
CrossFire Y

I just purchased it yesterday and I'm waiting for it's delivery.

thanks for the reply
ejames82
Initiate
Initiate
 
Posts: 24
Joined: Fri Aug 17, 2012 4:39 pm

Postby ejames82 » Wed Feb 27, 2013 4:12 pm

I received the motherboard today, but before I go any further with the installation/progress, I am worried about shorting the motherboard out.

the question is; should I put the board right against the metal case?

you can see what the inside of the case looks like from the pictures I have provided feb 19, 2013.

1
http://i48.tinypic.com/2uxtdzq.jpg

2
http://i48.tinypic.com/fuanoh.jpg

3
http://i46.tinypic.com/35lfbqp.jpg

4
http://i45.tinypic.com/10qvq4g.jpg

5
http://i50.tinypic.com/2s1orad.jpg

6
http://i46.tinypic.com/i6b7md.jpg


it has been a while since I pulled the old motherboard out of the case and I cannot remember removing standoffs from the case. in fact, I don't think there were any. I have read from searching that in situations such as mine, where the standoffs are 'built in' that standoffs are not needed. here are some bits of info that I came across.

http://hardwarelogic.com/articles.php?id=5187
http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/323713-31-case
http://www.computershopper.com/feature/ ... -workhorse
http://hardwarelogic.com/articles.php?id=5223

before I go any further I thought it would be wise to ask you guys if I need to insert brass or plastic standoffs, or if rubber washers on each side of the motherboard might not be a bad idea. what might your recommendation be? of course, should I put these standoffs in, that is going to throw off the positioning of the input/output jacks on the backplate (by the way, the new backplate fits perfectly).

if I just put the board in the case 'as is', I don't want to fry the new board. if you guys are sure I won't be frying the board by installing it 'as is' then I will proceed.

by the way, I was able to configure the power/hard drive LEDs and switches into the block without a hitch.

thanks for your expertise
ejames82
Initiate
Initiate
 
Posts: 24
Joined: Fri Aug 17, 2012 4:39 pm

Postby Toby B. » Wed Feb 27, 2013 8:24 pm

its been so damned long since I dug that deep into a computer I can't remember any more, but I vaguely remember the need for brass standoffs.
Toby B.
Lead Mobo-fu Master
Lead Mobo-fu Master
 
Posts: 14277
Joined: Sun Dec 16, 2001 1:01 am
Location: Maine

Postby evasive » Thu Feb 28, 2013 12:20 am

he question is; should I put the board right against the metal case?


From what I see there the mounting holes are on little "islands" standing out. I will do some digging but I think there's no need for standoffs, I mean why would you have removed those when getting the board out?
We hate rut, but we fear change.
********************************
System error, strike any user to continue...
evasive
Mobo-fu Master
Mobo-fu Master
 
Posts: 37389
Joined: Sun May 06, 2001 12:01 am
Location: Netherlands

PreviousNext

Return to Recommendations

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: YandexBot [Bot] and 1 guest