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Tight Budget Upgrade

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Hi guys ... I'm looking into upgrading my old girl so she can run MSFSX smootly. FSX is a CPU munching program. I can run it now with what I got in my sig but I'm getting low FPS 4-17 jumping all over the place.

I have a budget of $200-$250 for the upgrade ... $250 is the absolute max I can spend.

This is what I am looking at ... it will be the first time I've look at AMD rather than Intel which is a bit out of my budget.

biostar or asrock for $5 more

I plan to get the 4 x 3.1ghz option.

Going with the faster memory 4G

Power supply

That would bring the cost to $212.70 with a little left over for ide adapter if I need it.

What do you guys think?

Oh yeah and I will need a sound card with a game port for my analog joystick ... if the sound card I have in this system doesn't work.
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The ASRock board (N68S-UCC) is really reliable, sell loads and I must say nil returns... (they go in the budget systems).. It is also happy with quite a variety of RAM... I am running mine with an 8800GTS in it, but have tested a 465 which still worked really well... The only downside is the limitation to 8Gbs of RAM, but that's all you really need... You can't run a USB joystick? (I have a PC/X BOX joy pad that works great)...
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That good about the mobo board

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Well I do have the manhatten adapter for the joystick if I can't get the sound card game port to work, but it doesn't allow all the features as when it is hooked up to the game port. The limitation of 8G of ram will not effect the FSX program. I think it can only see 3G of ram. I will go with the ASRock board and pay the extra $5. Will I get that much better performance if I go with the 1600 ram instead of the 1333?

Is there much difference between the Intel and Amd cpu?
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To tell you the honest truth I haven't really noticed any difference between the two speeds.. As for the cpu, AMD is cheaper than the equivalent Intel, but it depends on what you do... CAD And DV editing go Intel.. All else AMD does the job...
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What do you think of these boards?

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I'm taking a look at these boards for a friend ... what do you think ...

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With Intel... You cannot go really wrong with Intel boards or Gigabyte at the moment... With ASUS we have had a few returns on their boards, which is not good...

On the AMD selection, same again, (apart from No Intel boards)... Foxconn boards are poor - if you want budget look at ASRock...And look at the 890, 970 or 990 chipset... Any below that are really old and may limit upgradability...
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What about Biostar?

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What about the biostar boards?

Looking at this one

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Biostar ain't bad but that is an old chipset and we have had a few returns on some of their boards...
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Thanks:)

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Thanks Mr. T ... I appreciate your input.

One other question ... do you think I should use a video card instead of the onboard video with the ASRock? My friend doesn't do any heavy gaming, but he does like to watch and download youtube videos. Will the onboard video due?
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Re: Thanks:)

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OneSpirit wrote:Thanks Mr. T ... I appreciate your input.

One other question ... do you think I should use a video card instead of the onboard video with the ASRock? My friend doesn't do any heavy gaming, but he does like to watch and download youtube videos. Will the onboard video due?
Yes, it'll do fine.. Only put in a video card if he wants to game, have an HD output or run multiple monitors...
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