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Problem with Windows Crashing

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Wellsir ... off and on the Ryzen computer has been crashing. The last two times I was in my flight sim program. I uninstalled the drivers for the pcie card I removed. I see the errors in the event viewer, but I don't know what they mean. I need to get this crashing straighten out before I go any further. What do I need to do to correct this situation? :-|
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Re: Problem with Windows Crashing

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Do the usual, re-seat everything, try another power supply.

I would strongly recommend ditching windows 7 - it is badly outdated, plus driver support for new hardware is diminishing rapidly.

I would also never install an operating system on a drive over 1Tb. If it is windows, I would use 240Gb as a minimum, but as a maximum too. (Mac OSX, 240Gb min and Linux, 16Gb minimum depending on distro). Nowadays I would put the OS on an SSD, with larger drives for storage or running certain programs..
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Okay ... I did the re-seat. I also installed ccleaner and ran it for the registry, windows and apps. I also ran windows 7 manager and had it clean the registry also. I used the repair options ... repair all system components ... file association ... the errors I saw in the event views showed some kind of error involving the WMI (Windows Management Instrumentation) so I had windows manager rebuild it. So far the system hasn't crashed ... hopefully what I did corrected the problem. Time will tell. If all goes well I will try and install the new pcie usb card.
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No crashing ... card installed and it worked. All is well. :-|
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WMI is a fiery beast sometimes. Wait until you are deploying software to 8000 systems on a weekly basis :o :lol: :roll:
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OneSpirit wrote:No crashing ... card installed and it worked. All is well. :-|
Excellent. I would still consider ditching windows 7 and moving to SSD's, though. Unfortunately in this day and age, software is king and hardware has to catch up. I just had to ditch a 2 year old Motorla smartphone as it was so slow and some of the apps wouldn't work properly (what you get with Android 7 and 1.5Gb of ram). My new phone will become defunct pretty soon, judging by the way software is going (my iphones were even worse, won't buy an iphone again). At least PC's are more flexible (why I stick with them) hardware and software wise, especially software wise and you have the willingness to look past M$ and OSX...
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Mr T wrote: I just had to ditch a 2 year old Motorla smartphone as it was so slow and some of the apps wouldn't work properly (what you get with Android 7 and 1.5Gb of ram). My new phone will become defunct pretty soon, judging by the way software is going (my iphones were even worse, won't buy an iphone again). At least PC's are more flexible (why I stick with them) hardware and software wise, especially software wise and you have the willingness to look past M$ and OSX...
Blackberry Priv owner here. Can relate. Not going with any flagship phones any time soon...
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Wellsir ... all is not as well as I thought. The computer is still crashing. I tested the ram one stick at a time ... it passed and I tested the hard drive ... it passed. I get a "Page_fault_in_nonpaged_area" on the BSOD. I looked it up but it was not very clear on how to stop it. What can I do to correct this? :(
Also it seems to take a while to boot up. I have a much slower computer that can boot up faster. Plus the notification sounds are several seconds after the box pops up. Don't know what is up with that.
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You should be able to find why it is crashing (sounds like a driver is misbehaving). I'll have to check for some tools and utilities to get the info out...
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Re: Problem with Windows Crashing

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Sh** having the exact same issue today. After updating drivers. So that is the way to look, make sure your drivers are up to date first.
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