XP to Linux: Which, Where, How?

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XP to Linux: Which, Where, How?

Postby BIGMAN131307 » Sat Aug 08, 2015 8:56 am

I know this has been asked before, but it needs to again.

I would like to move from Windows XP to Linux. But I'm not sure which distro(s) would work for me.
A few months ago I tried, but the distros didn't load properly for me.

What I need to know:

- which Distro(s) are similar to Windows XP (for ease of use)?
- where to download the LIVE CD or DVD?
- how to decide which 32 bit or 64 bit is best for my system?
- how to check to make sure the download(s) are error free, how to burn the ISO(s)?

I would like to be able to browse the net, play DVDs/CDs, MP3 (+other audio/video files), without any special changes.

Sorry if this has been discussed many times. But I'm rusty on this, and need help getting it right.

Thx, :)
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Re: XP to Linux: Which, Where, How?

Postby Karlsweldt » Sat Aug 08, 2015 3:39 pm

Linux versions and features.. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compariso ... tributions
Some Linux Q&A here.. http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions ... ux-462427/
You can run a lot of Windows programs on Linux Wine.. https://www.linux.com/learn/answers/vie ... e-on-linux
Windows and Linux on the same drive is acceptable, but there must be separate partitions.
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Re: XP to Linux: Which, Where, How?

Postby BIGMAN131307 » Sat Aug 08, 2015 8:58 pm

Thx for the links, but they didn't tell me much more than I already knew. :(


What I need to know:

- which Distro(s) are similar to Windows XP (for ease of use)
****** [so the OS change would feel like a lateral move.]

- where to download the LIVE CD or DVD?
******[safe place to download the LIVE DVD /CD]

- how to decide which 32 bit or 64 bit is best for my system?
****** [how do I determine if I need 32 bit or 64 bit OS?]

- how to check to make sure the download(s) are error free, how to burn the ISO(s)?
****** [how do I check the downloaded ISO will burn without errors?]

I would like to be able to browse the net, play DVDs/CDs, MP3 (+other audio/video files), without any special changes.
****** [which distros are ready after install, with the features I need?]


:) ??
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Re: XP to Linux: Which, Where, How?

Postby Mr T » Sun Aug 09, 2015 7:02 am

- which Distro(s) are similar to Windows XP (for ease of use)
****** [so the OS change would feel like a lateral move.]

If you think linux, forget M$ Windows, they have a completely different way of doing things, albeit in a similar fashion. ZorinOS is similar to windows in fonts, folder style etc, but it is still linux. Basically swapping M$ windows to linux can be difficult if you are stuck in the M$ ways where all is done for you and you spend most of the time updating the system and battling viruses, however with a little lateral thinking, Linux can be a lot more easier, a whole lot cheaper and more fun. Distro wise for a beginner you cannot beat:
Number 1 Ubuntu - well supported, can try before you use (works on just about anything) and very simple to use and install...
2 - Linux Mint
3 - Debian
4 - fedora
5 - SUSE

All the above are good starting distro's and well supported.

- where to download the LIVE CD or DVD?
******[safe place to download the LIVE DVD /CD]

I go through Distrowatch... But go to their own websites, most you will get a downloads through SourceForge. I ahve had no issue yet and I have tried a lot and I mean a lot of different distro's...

- how to decide which 32 bit or 64 bit is best for my system?
****** [how do I determine if I need 32 bit or 64 bit OS?]

If you have a 64bit CPU with more than 2Gb's of RAM, then go 64bit. 32bit is aimed at older machines these days, but is still well supported.

- how to check to make sure the download(s) are error free, how to burn the ISO(s)?
****** [how do I check the downloaded ISO will burn without errors?]

In all the years I have been downloading and burning .iso's from linux sites, never had a bad one. these days, burning an .iso is old hat. You can create bootable pendrives with multiple operating systems on them using programs like YUMI, Universal USB Installer and the like. It maens you don't waste discs and can try before you install without touching your windows installation.

Due to UEFI boot on new motherboards and the way windows from Vista forward boots, I would NOT recommend a dual boot, stick with one drive one operating system. Saves a load of headaches.

Good luck (and I recommnd Ubuntu)...
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Re: XP to Linux: Which, Where, How?

Postby BIGMAN131307 » Sun Aug 09, 2015 9:43 pm

Thx guys, this gives me a great start.

@ MrT

I've already downloaded those, a few variations of each, plus these.

Debian
Mageia
Manjaro
PC Linux

Is there any Distros I should avoid? Which ones, and why?
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Re: XP to Linux: Which, Where, How?

Postby Mr T » Mon Aug 10, 2015 10:01 am

BIGMAN131307 wrote:Thx guys, this gives me a great start.

@ MrT

I've already downloaded those, a few variations of each, plus these.

Debian
Mageia
Manjaro
PC Linux

Is there any Distros I should avoid? Which ones, and why?

All good, avoid any difficult ones that involve a lot of command line work, as I said I recommend Ubuntu as it is easy to install, easy to play with, supports the vast majority of hardware out there and has a good forum. If you start off with something like Ubuntu, you can move up to more challenging distro's like Puppy, Arch linux and the like if you so wish> I am currently messing with two at the moment for some projects - SteamOS for gaming and Porteus (mainly KIOSK) for web browsing.
Think of it like this, most OS's are general purpose, ie you can do just about everything you need to on them, but like a toolkit, sometimes you just need a spanner, same with linux - you may want to revive old hardware, get a MAC up and running thats 10 years old, run an internet kiosk and so on. Thats where you can strip it down to what you need.

Have fun...
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Re: XP to Linux: Which, Where, How?

Postby BIGMAN131307 » Tue Aug 11, 2015 7:33 am

These are the results I got so far. These are all the (semi)latest distros.
I will break the results down by distro. Results key:

(ok) - booted, will try it out
(ok-) booted, will get another look
(login) asked for login/pw
(?) - not sure how to boot Live CD/DVD from boot screen
(NB) - did not fully boot
(error) - tried to boot, panic error
(error+) - disc didn't read
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Zorin 9 lite - (ok)
Zorin 9 core - (error+)
Zorin 9 edu - (ok)
Zorin 10 lite - (ok-)
Zorin 10 core - (ok)

PCLinux KDE - (NB)
PCLinux lxde - (error)
PCLinux Mate - (ok-)

Mageia 5 - (ok)

Manjaro KDE - (?)
Manjara xfce - (?)

Linuxmint KDE - (error)
Linuxmint Mate - (error)
Linuxmint Cinnamon - (NB)
LinuxMint Xfce - (error)

Debian Mate - (ok-)
Debian Cinnamon - (error)
Debian lxde - (ok-)
Debian xfce - (NB)

Fedora - (ok-)

ubuntu 14.04 - (error)
ubuntu 15.04 - (login)

openSUSE - (error)

Simplicity Linux DT15.7 - (?)

Any suggestions how to get the distros that didn't boot to work?
What is the main differences between: KDE, lxde, Mate, Xfce, Cinnamon distros?
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Re: XP to Linux: Which, Where, How?

Postby Mr T » Tue Aug 11, 2015 10:23 am

If the distro requires a password at first bootup and it didn't ask you to create one when running live, check out the documentation. It usually sets a temporary account when running live. Ubuntu for example will ask for a password when running certain 'root' operations like GPatrted to partition a hard drive and will accept the first password you enter which then becomes the 'root' password.

Check this out for the difference between desktops...
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Re: XP to Linux: Which, Where, How?

Postby evasive » Wed Aug 12, 2015 10:10 pm

These guys claim they make it even easier for you because they mimic the others as much as possible.

https://elementary.io/
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Re: XP to Linux: Which, Where, How?

Postby BIGMAN131307 » Mon Aug 17, 2015 9:02 am

Ok so I gave them all a few tries. Some booted fine, while others resulted in a "panic error", or just didn't boot at all. :(

Lint Mint (KDE, Xfce, Cinnamon): all had panic errors
Debian (Mate, lxde, Xfce): I didn't care for. While Debian (Cinnamon): I kinda like. But it asked for a Login / Password the second time I tried it. I tried it again, it eventually loaded up.
PCLinux (Mate, lxde, KDE): all had errors.
Linux Lite: I didn't care for.
Peppermint: was ok, a few changes then it would be very good.
ubuntu 15.04: booted but asked for a login / password :( I tried some of the common ones specified on the ubuntu website. But no luck. :(
ubuntu 14.04: never finished booting. :(
openSUSE: was ok, a few changes then it would be very good.
Fedora: I didn't care for.
Mageia: I didn't care for.
Zorin (9 lite, 9 EDU, 9 Core, 10 lite): all had errors. While Zorin 10 Core: I kinda like.

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Any suggestions to get these Live DVDs to run without asking for a login / password?

Does anyone have more first hand experience with the following distros:

Debian (Cinnamon)
Peppermint
ubuntu 15.04
ubuntu 14.04
openSUSE
Zorin 10 Core


What do you like/dislike about them? Did you have to do anything to get them up and running?
Was all your hardware, networks, etc, all detected?
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