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Postby malmal » Thu Dec 03, 2009 7:54 pm

I posted this on a dead forum so now hopefully you can help me:

I have a Asus P5E3. It had a soldered on soic chip. It now has a soic8 socket.

Setting up the board [no case] I got an error message after " checking nvram"
It said "Not enough space in Runtime area. SMBios data will not be available " Press F1 OR DEL

So I ran AFUDOS and updated the bios. pull battery, change jumper, pull plug from wall socket. Then put it all back together and boot- updated bios version but the same error message.

So I ran AFUDOS with the switches pbnc. It then erased the bootblock and tried ten times to write to the bootblock -failed. Rebooted

same procedure with battery etc. but the m/b wouldnt post . dead m/b.

Changed the chip [programmed with v610] and the m/b is up and running. I'm typing on it right now.
Is nvram a different name for bootblock?
Is Runtime area part of the bios chip?
Is SMBios a different name for nvram or bootblock?
Using a parallel chip burner [Willems or Nano] , will it erase and write to the whole chip like afudos /pbnc ?
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Postby evasive » Fri Dec 04, 2009 1:10 am

not enough space in runtime area sounds like a dead bios chip. So that may have been the problem in the first place.
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Postby Big Jake » Fri Dec 04, 2009 2:18 pm

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Postby malmal » Fri Dec 04, 2009 5:14 pm

Thanks for the replies.
I read that post and many more. Google for days.
The bios chip wasnt dead . I used afudos on usb to upgrade. If it was dead It would not post or load anything-- like after I used afudos to rewrite the bootblock.

Is nvram a different name for bootblock?
Is Runtime area part of the bios chip?
Is SMBios a different name for nvram or bootblock? :)
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Postby Karlsweldt » Sat Dec 05, 2009 2:33 pm

Any "computerese" or jargon definition can be found here.. http://www.computerhope.com/jargon.htm
As to 'bootblock', that is in the BIOS memory design to provide a type of backup to the settings, in case of a corrupt file or setting failure due to a BIOS update. It would allow the BIOS to cause a search for proper instructions to begin the pre-boot process and POST check.
NVRAM is non-volatile memory retention.. fixed factory settings that cannot be written over or changed.
A runtime error could cover several issues.. such as incompatible or failing memory, improper boot path or conflicting devices.
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Postby malmal » Sat Dec 05, 2009 6:20 pm

Thanks for the reply.
It wasnt a runtime error it was concerning the runtime area.

Is SMBios a different name for nvram or bootblock or runtime area?

When burning a new blank chip with an asus bios upgrade is the chip burnt with nvram, bootblock, SMBios and the upgrade altogether?
Is there a bit or byte count that would verify that everything is on the new chip as was on the oem supplied chip.?
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Postby evasive » Sun Dec 06, 2009 1:22 am

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Postby malmal » Sun Dec 06, 2009 5:30 am

If you want definitions, the best place is the bios companies themselves.
None of them answer my questions. I was hoping to find someone that knew the structure of a bios chip. :)
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Postby evasive » Sun Dec 06, 2009 1:27 pm

bios chip manufacturers have data sheets of their chips online, you may want to look there then.
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