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 Post subject: HELP WITH DELL HELL
PostPosted: Fri Apr 04, 2003 5:42 pm 
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Please help me with the following bios string from a Dell XPS T600 with Phoenix bios 4S4EB2X0.10A.0026.P08.9911051136.
After years of endless headaches I prefer NOT dealing with Dell but to instead get drivers from perhaps Intel.
I assume that the motherboard upgrades I need would be the bios and chipset. Is this correct? Any hope of loading all drivers at once?
Finally what's the most desirable CPU to buy to replace the PIII 600?

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 04, 2003 5:58 pm 
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Possibly an Intel Seattle III motherboard with 440BX chipset...

http://support.intel.com/support/mother ... /se440bx2/

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This it?

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 Post subject: Dell Hell
PostPosted: Fri Apr 04, 2003 6:26 pm 
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This is the original Dell motherboard from a Dell dimension xps t600 I unfortunately purchased several years ago. I've wasted countless hours trying to get bios info from Dell. Their site is a bureaucratic disaster and furthermore I'm locked out of tech info since I'm no longer giving them money. One more reason not to buy Dell.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 04, 2003 7:47 pm 
Some one keeps on removing important info about Dell only uses Intel oem motherboards. Dell does not make any motherboards of their own

Without that info, you can not find the Dell motherboard details.

So, some smart guy removes the important post and puts his own post instead, on Intel motherboard.

Well the guy interested did not even know the connection between Intel and Dell(Michael that is). So, his answer to you is Dell is terrible. He doen not know Intel at all for all the beans in boston.


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 04, 2003 9:47 pm 
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Not sure I understand.
I assume that you have an archive on converting Dell numbers to Intel.
All I know is that Intel's name is written on most chips yet when I go to Intels site and try to find drivers the responce is that the board is an OEM and I should contact Dell.
I even emailed Intel directly and eventually got a reply which basically said the same. The tech who replied was kind enough to give me the motherboards.org link. A search for the bios string from this site shows invalid bios info. I am including the full email I sent to Intel which supplies very specific info on my system which I was able to get using SANDRA which seems like an excellent piece of software.


FROM MY EMAIL TO INTEL
->Customer_type: Corporate IT
->Product: Intel(R) Chipset Software Installation Utility
->Product_id: 816
->OS: Windows* 2000
->Survey_opt_in: Yes
->Chipset: intel 440 family
->Motherboard: intel SE440BX-3, mainboard mod # SE440BX-3 Version AA722396-112
->Bios_version: 4S4EB2X0.10A.0026.P08
->Processor_type_and_speed: PIII 600mhz
->System_manufacturer: Dell*
->Motherboard: intel SE440BX-3, mainboard mod # SE440BX-3 Version AA722396-112
->RAM: 512 MB
->OS_upgrade: clean
->Previous_version:
->Non_English_version:
->IDE_driver: no
->INF_driver: no
->Device_manager_info: Intel 82371 AB/EB PCI bus master IDE controller
->Devices: Diamond Max Plus 40 Ultra ATA 66
->DiamondMax Plus 60 Ultra DMA 100
->CD RW
->DVD ROM
->Problem_started: No problem yet
->Issue: Sirs -
->I'm in the middle of updating system and need your help.
->Although system is a Dell they have proved to be totally clueless every time and offer no support on real technical issues. Even if I was able to get usefull help I could not feel confident of results based on many screwups in the past.
->There are several bottlenecks in the system. Several could be fixed with Intel's downloads. Based on my search I'm unsure on Bios version to download since its not listed.
->Also can you recommend order of importance for upgrades?
->(ie. 1. Bios 2. Chipset ...etc.)
->Also wouldn't mind replacing the CPU. At this stage would it be cost effective to replace the system mainboard?
->If so could Intel supply this board or can you make a suggestion? Spent several years assembling systems and highly respect Intel and quality, upgradable motherboards.
->I realize all tech advice is off the record and I'm responsible for any problems.
->
->Thanks
->Charlie
->ps any good links are always appreciated.
->Form_id: 15


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PostPosted: Sat Apr 05, 2003 1:18 am 
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The Intel SE440BX-2 has the bios ID 4S4EB2X0 not the SE440BX-3 which has the bios ID 4S4EB3X0.

SE440BX-2 info:-

http://support.intel.com/support/motherboards/desktop/se440bx2/


SE440BX-3 manual:-

ftp://download.intel.com/design/motherbd/oem/72698401.pdf

Manual update:-

ftp://download.intel.com/design/motherbd/oem/73824203.pdf



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 05, 2003 1:47 am 
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The Intel SE440BX-2 has the bios ID 4S4EB2X0 not the SE440BX-3 which has the bios ID 4S4EB3X0


Unfortunately, Dell has decided to use 4S4EB2X0.10A for the SE440BX-3. They don't even use the SE440BX-2. It has taken me some time to sort this out.

Creative onboard audio drivers and the bios updates must come from Dell, the other stuff can be found at the Intel site (chipset drivers and a manual).

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 05, 2003 7:01 am 
Try to find the Intel model number on the edge of the motherboard on yellow sticker. Search that number on Intel site.

Chipset numbers are for the Intel retail motherboards.


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 Post subject: Thanks Mobo Pro's
PostPosted: Sun Apr 06, 2003 9:36 pm 
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Many thanks to the experts responding to my post.
You guys make the world spin!

I took your advice, eeked out a bios download from Dell, installed it and downloaded misc drivers from Intel.
Mobo now purrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrssssssssssssssssssssss............
like a kitten.
Your help has encouraged me to get back into building systems again after 14 years.

Thanks again
Chasmo


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 07, 2003 1:08 am 
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Try to find the Intel model number on the edge of the motherboard on yellow sticker. Search that number on Intel site.


Only going to work for retail boards atang1...

Seen my list? You will have to build one with OEM boards as you encounter them.

chasmo: happy to hear eveything has worked out OK :)

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