If you had $100 to spend on a Video card...?

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If you had around $100 to spend on a new video card, which of the following would you choose?

GeForce 4 MX 440
10
15%
ATI Radeon 8500
38
58%
GeForce 3 Ti200
18
27%
 
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Postby effika » Thu Jun 27, 2002 1:10 pm

My option isn't listed!

3dFx Voodoo5 6000-- off of ebay for very good prices. I'm just a 3dFx fan... and until ATI gets their driver-writers to actually take advantage of the card and nVidia stops sacc'ing image quality and having really high prices... well, I'll stick to what I know. :) My Voodoo4 4500 has worked just fine for me-- everything except Dungeon Seige has worked great-- luckily I didn't want to play that one except at LAN parties anyway.

/me waits for the next generation of gfx cards and good-for-the-consumer competition to help out.
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Postby False Christian » Fri Jun 28, 2002 10:22 am

Definately the 8500. There's no question as the 8500 with the new Cataylyst drivers is comparable to the Ti4600.

But, a 8500 for $100?!? I payed $460 for my 128MB RADEON 8500 up here in Canada. :lol:
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Postby datektrader21 » Fri Jun 28, 2002 10:45 am

But, a 8500 for $100?!? I payed $460 for my 128MB RADEON 8500 up here in Canada.


so thats what, like 50 bucks US currency :lol:
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Postby charibdis » Fri Jun 28, 2002 10:57 am

The 8500 is even more ahead of any of the Geforce3 cards. The 8500LE competes with the GeForce4 Ti4200 and the 8500 can give the Ti4600 a run for it's money.

I went from an ATI RageIIc 2Mb card to a GeForce2MX 32MB @ 235/195 and now I have an ATI Radeon8500LE @ 306/270. And the way my card is performing now the only thing holding it back is the CPU speed of my PC which is causing a minor bottleneck.

I paid $270 canadian for my Radeon8500LE 64MB. :)
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Postby charibdis » Fri Jun 28, 2002 11:01 am

has anyone else used the Glide wrapper for the Radeon cards??? I used it and I'm surprised that the games run so well.

For those of you that don't know what it is. It's a Glide driver that enables Glide support on Radeon cards. (I think it's limited to the 7500 and 8500 cards though)
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Postby datektrader21 » Fri Jun 28, 2002 11:05 am

i wanna see someone post a site with these so called benmarks :evil: im not buying into this LE competing with a ti4200. although its about damn time ati got some good drivers out to those poor unfortunate souls with there cards. :lol:
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Postby charibdis » Fri Jun 28, 2002 11:48 am

Here it's only the 3rd time I post them (posted here too: http://www.motherboards.org/forums/view ... c&start=20 )

Here's a benchmark of the Ti4200 64MB versus the Radeon 8500LE 64MB. Look at it and tell me that the NVidia card is that much better than the ATI card? The new catalyst drivers make a big difference!!

http://www.hardwarestorm.com/NoFrame/Re ... 8500LE.htm

Oh and this one will surely get Daytektrader going. Look at this benchmark. What's this an ATI Radeon 8500 128MB that parforms almost the same as a Geforce4 Ti4600 128MB. ??? Have people gone mad? I think not. It just shows how ATI have great quality products!!!


http://www.tweaktown.com/document.php?d ... 90&dPage=1
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Postby datektrader21 » Fri Jun 28, 2002 12:05 pm

I don't know how much i trust creative with video cards [my creative tnt2 sucked] but other than that it looks as though the ti4200 beat the radeon in a lot of those benchmarks. as for the tweaktown results I think your seeing the radeon at the end of its life cycle with the best drivers its probably ever gonna get. whereas the ti4600 still has a relatively long driver life span ahead of it, so its only gonna get better. The new geforce cards are still the better buy since there is still more head room in the gpu than there is in the radeon. it will be interesting to see how the new r300 stands up to the ti4600. although I think when the new radeon is released you will see a new driver from nvidia that will no doubt unleash the cards' full potential.


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Postby charibdis » Fri Jun 28, 2002 12:22 pm

LMAO!!! :lol: You say that the Radeon (R200) is at it's end? I think not. :twisted: The new catalysts just came out this month, and gave a really good performance boost to the cards. Also there's one thing you forget. The Radeon beat the Ti4200 in high resolution with Anisotropic Filtering. The Radeon also had a very low performance hit.

Also, ATI has not one but 2 new chips coming out. The R250 and R300. The Ti4600 will lose lots of ground to the R250, if not all of it. And especially that the R200 can perform about the same as the Ti4600 as it is now. And the Ti4600 will probably die in the shadow of the R300 :!: :!: :!:

Although NVidia are supposed to release their new card around the same time as ATI will. It will be interesting to see what Nvidia will come up with. I don't think aging 3DFX engineers will help that much.
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Postby datektrader21 » Fri Jun 28, 2002 12:39 pm

aging 3DFX engineers


Why does everybody refer to the 3dfx guys as if they are 90 years old and on life support? :?


R200 is at its end and you know why? because its a year old card for one reason. second of all i highly doubt that ATI is going to pummel Nvidia. first off Nvidia has a much better product history and much stronger name recognition, second of all we are mer months away from a completely new GPU from Nvidia, and it is still a big mystery to everybody as to what its specs are. whereas a simple google search will show you the approximate specs of the ATI card. third it would take ATI a year to get its market share on par with Nvidia. especially with the PC economy sitting in this rut. hence Nvidia has no real worries because by the time people are ready to upgrade they will have their shiny new card out on the market and it will no doubt once again push ATI back under the rock it crawled out of.

Perhaps if the economy was better ATI could grab a nice chunk of the market but sadly there release is going to be a bad time.
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