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Obama admits affinity for Marxists

Postby BrevCampagnolo » Tue Oct 28, 2008 2:51 pm

Obama Affinity to Marxists Dates Back to College Days
Barack Obama shrugs off charges of socialism, but noted in his own memoir that he carefully chose Marxist professors as friends in college.

By Bill Sammon
FOXNews.com
Tuesday, October 28, 2008

Barack Obama laughs off charges of socialism. Joe Biden scoffs at references to Marxism. Both men shrug off accusations of liberalism.

But Obama himself acknowledges that he was drawn to socialists and even Marxists as a college student. He continued to associate with Marxists later in life, even choosing to launch his political career in the living room of a self-described Marxist, William Ayers, in 1995, when Obama was 34.

Obama's affinity for Marxists began when he attended Occidental College in Los Angeles.

"To avoid being mistaken for a sellout, I chose my friends carefully," the Democratic presidential candidate wrote in his memoir, "Dreams From My Father." "The more politically active black students. The foreign students. The Chicanos. The Marxist professors and structural feminists."

Obama's interest in leftist politics continued after he transferred to Columbia University in New York. He lived on Manhattan's Upper East Side, venturing to the East Village for what he called "the socialist conferences I sometimes attended at Cooper Union."

After graduating from Columbia in 1983, Obama spent a year working for a consulting firm and then went to work for what he described as "a Ralph Nader offshoot" in Harlem.

"In search of some inspiration, I went to hear Kwame Toure, formerly Stokely Carmichael of Black Panther fame, speak at Columbia," Obama wrote in "Dreams," which he published in 1995. "At the entrance to the auditorium, two women, one black, one Asian, were selling Marxist literature."

Obama supporters point out that plenty of Americans flirt with radical ideologies in college, only to join the political mainstream later in life. But Obama, who made a point of noting how "carefully" he chose his friends in college, also chose to launch his political career in the Chicago living room of Ayers, a domestic terrorist who in 2002 proclaimed: "I am a Marxist."

Also present at that meeting was Ayers' wife, fellow terrorist Bernardine Dohrn, who once gave a speech extolling socialism, communism and "Marxism-Leninism."

Obama has been widely criticized for choosing the Rev. Jeremiah Wright, an anti-American firebrand, as his pastor. Wright is a purveyor of black liberation theology, which analysts say is based in part on Marxist ideas.

Few political observers go so far as to accuse Obama, the Democratic presidential nominee, of being a Marxist. But Republican John McCain has been accusing Obama of espousing socialism ever since the Democrat told an Ohio plumber named Joe earlier this month that he wanted to "spread the wealth around."

Obama's running mate, Biden, recently contradicted his boss, saying: "He is not spreading the wealth around." The remark came as Biden was answering a question from a TV anchor who asked: "How is Senator Obama not being a Marxist if he intends to spread the wealth around?"

"Are you joking? Is this a joke? Or is that a real question?" an incredulous Biden shot back. "It's a ridiculous comparison."

But the debate intensified Monday with the surfacing of a 2001 radio interview in which Obama lamented the Supreme Court's inability to enact "redistribution of wealth" -- a key tenet of socialism. On Tuesday, McCain said Obama aspires to become "Redistributionist-in-Chief."

Obama has managed to cultivate the image of a political moderate in spite of his consistently liberal voting record. In 2006, he published a second memoir, "The Audacity of Hope," that leaves little doubt about his adherence to the left.

"The arguments of liberals are more often grounded in reason and fact," Obama wrote in "Audacity." "Much of what I absorbed from the sixties was filtered through my mother, who to the end of her life would proudly proclaim herself an unreconstructed liberal."

National Journal magazine ranked Obama as the most liberal member of the Senate. The publication is far from conservative, employing such journalists as Linda Douglass, who resigned in May to become Obama's traveling press secretary.

Bill Sammon is the Washington deputy managing editor for FOX News Channel.

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Postby Ghen » Wed Oct 29, 2008 12:45 pm

So whats your take Brev? What do YOU think? I really don't care what these spin doctors say in the media on BOTH sides. I'm talking about all your articles by the way which are completely overwhelming in number and yet underwhelming in content.
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Postby ssamurai26 » Wed Oct 29, 2008 8:21 pm

LOL, anytime you see FOX news listed as the source, you know to stop reading right there. "Fair And Balanced" ahhahahahahahhahahahaha
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Postby thomas_w_bowman » Thu Oct 30, 2008 4:32 am

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Postby ssamurai26 » Thu Oct 30, 2008 5:44 am

Oh come on, are you really willing to put yourself in the "I watch Fox News" category? All the people I know, liberal, conservative, or moderate all think Fox news is a total joke. You might as well get your news from the Daily show :lol:
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Postby thomas_w_bowman » Thu Oct 30, 2008 8:09 am

ssamurai26 I missed specifically which facts you consider 'innacurate' and if there is a reason that you think so besides not considering FOX News 'worthy' ?

Perhaps you can find a credible link that can disprove some/any of the reported facts ?

I can't trust PBS, CBS, MSNBC, or most TV News - they are clearly dishonest about their bias. Having a bias is reasonable as long as one is willing to own it...even as your bias against FOX News.

I generally ignore 'doubtful' sources (eg: UTUBE), and don't even bother to post a response (heck I likely wouldn't even view the Utube 'News' item at all).
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Postby CivilDissent » Thu Oct 30, 2008 6:28 pm

Shoot, very little of the media has not chosen a side. Want know how you can tell if the interviewer, etc. has chosen a side or not...just watch their face.

People like Couric, Mathews, Letterman, Maher etc. get so mad and upset that their faces get red and puffy, it looks like they are going to explode. Do you think that they can actually be neutral, no way.

FOX is no more prejudicial than CBS (Couric, Letterman and so many more), NBC (Meet the Press, etc.), ABC (The View, etc.).

Money is what it is all about. More press means more commercials, viewing, and therefore money. So, naturally, the press is going to follow, and jack up, the one that will be most viewed to, therefore, bring in more money.

I have a challenge for them...stop paying the media one penny and let us see how many of them really want to be in the media or if they just want moullah.
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Postby ssamurai26 » Thu Oct 30, 2008 10:16 pm

thomas_w_bowman wrote:ssamurai26 I missed specifically which facts you consider 'innacurate' and if there is a reason that you think so besides not considering FOX News 'worthy' ?

Perhaps you can find a credible link that can disprove some/any of the reported facts ?

I can't trust PBS, CBS, MSNBC, or most TV News - they are clearly dishonest about their bias. Having a bias is reasonable as long as one is willing to own it...even as your bias against FOX News.

I generally ignore 'doubtful' sources (eg: UTUBE), and don't even bother to post a response (heck I likely wouldn't even view the Utube 'News' item at all).


My comment was about the validity of ANY news from FOX, and what I (and an awful lot of reasonable people out there) think about them, that's all. Similar to asking for any credible link that can disprove some/any of the stories on ultra leftist shows such as the Daily show, etc. Yes, they both have newsworthy stories from time to time, yes, they can both be balanced and can both be insightful from time to time, but to consider it news one should not. The major difference being that one is actually listed as comedy and taken with a grain of salt, whereas people who rely on Fox news tend to take it on faith that it's true. It was an innocent comment that I guess I wrongfully assumed people would understand given the reference to the Daily show. I guess I should know better (you know what they say about people who ASSUME!)
But come-on, I have seen so many closed minded people in this forum (left or right of the middle) that make this comment about other "questionable" sources that it just HAD to be said LOL. Seems plenty are willing to do it, but still feel the need to call out others who do it to them :lol:

I mean seriously, how many times have you seen people here post things like "oh, that news comes from the ACLU, I stop reading right there, because it must not be true"... those who live in glass houses blah blah blah. Now go relax and enjoy election day watching FOX news... who will undoubtedly be "fair and balanced" :lol:
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Postby Roach412 » Fri Oct 31, 2008 6:30 am

all i can say is at least fox news is entertaining to watch. they tend to have high production value, and that tends to draw a lot of viewers.

most of the other outlets are dull, boring, and make terrible attempts at making the news entertaining (isn't that was news is supposed to be, entertainment??!? :lol: )

simply put - anything i see on a "news" channel i take for simply face value - the "idea" of the topic is all i get out of it, the rest is simply personal research if i'm interested in it. if the outlet provides and "insight" into whether something was right or wrong it instantly becomes biased and therefore not really news anymore, it becomes an opinion.

they're all crappy.

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Postby Ge FOrce 543 » Wed Nov 05, 2008 5:51 pm

Roach412 wrote:all i can say is at least fox news is entertaining to watch. they tend to have high production value, and that tends to draw a lot of viewers.

most of the other outlets are dull, boring, and make terrible attempts at making the news entertaining (isn't that was news is supposed to be, entertainment??!? :lol: )

simply put - anything i see on a "news" channel i take for simply face value - the "idea" of the topic is all i get out of it, the rest is simply personal research if i'm interested in it. if the outlet provides and "insight" into whether something was right or wrong it instantly becomes biased and therefore not really news anymore, it becomes an opinion.

they're all crappy.

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They're all crappy? Perhaps... But adding comedy to the mix doesn't help it's credibility. Besides, the humor fox attempts to put out is sub-par at best.
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