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Postby evasive » Thu Oct 02, 2008 5:31 am

make that Mac OS, you can run windows/linux on a Mac too these days :)
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Postby jimmy-j » Sun Oct 05, 2008 1:59 pm

evasive wrote:make that Mac OS, you can run windows/linux on a Mac too these days :)



I think Apple are just at the point where they can make a bigger impact in their share of the market if they would only open up a bit more.
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Postby evasive » Mon Oct 06, 2008 2:21 am

open up in what sense? you can run linux/windows on their hardware. What else do you need? Open sourcing MacOS X?
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Postby thomas_w_bowman » Mon Oct 06, 2008 4:14 am

So does M$ still spend more on Legal than on Development ?
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Postby jimmy-j » Mon Oct 06, 2008 4:46 pm

evasive wrote:open up in what sense? you can run linux/windows on their hardware. What else do you need? Open sourcing MacOS X?


I was reffering to their software only being used on their own hardware, I have heard that somewhere they hacked the OS to run on a windows/standard PC. but not something you would be able to do right out of the box.
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Postby evasive » Tue Oct 14, 2008 4:18 am

well obviously if their software was functionally THAT good an open source variant would have appeared, right? i think there's just no need for specific apple apps or you must be able to give examples?
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Postby jimmy-j » Tue Oct 14, 2008 12:00 pm

Maybe I didn't give the correct description of what I meant,I thought it would be to apples advantage to make its OS available to the wider market by being more PC friendly and therefor also give people the choice for something besides Windows/Linux.
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Postby bridgemill » Tue Nov 25, 2008 3:22 pm

still don't know why I need Vista.
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Postby MrG » Mon Dec 15, 2008 8:08 am

I see no need for Vista, but as a Vista user myself I'm not going to jump aboard the hatred band-waggon.

UAC is a pain but I do see benefits, its architecture does defend a little against "auto installers", no it won't stop foolish people installing things themselves, but it does block malicious automation.

The one clear disadvantage I could clearly live without is the ridiculous idea of not being able to access my own documents :? WTF??? For example, go to: "Documents" (using the left-hand side panel links in Windows Explorer) then try accessing any of the sub-folders e.g. "My Music", you get an insane error "C:\Users\username>\Documents\My Music is not accessible - Access is denied". This is clearly wrong, wrong, wrong! :x

I am a software developer myself and as such I have glimpsed "under the hood" of Windows 7 through my MSDN subscription, and they are now saying that Windows 7's interpretation of UAC and other security is going to be made configurable similar to what can be done in Internet Explorer (and other browsers) whereby the user can choose "levels" of security rather than Vista's simplistic on or off approach.
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Postby thomas_w_bowman » Mon Dec 22, 2008 10:36 am

Why haven't they applied for a 'Bailout ' ? Every one else is doing it...
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