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PostPosted: Sun Mar 03, 2019 2:14 pm 
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Since windows 7 will not be supported anymore in 10 months I need to get ready to go to Linux. I'm doing a new build at the end of the week and I want to do a fresh install of the two. Is there a good tutorial on how to do this? Something that is easy to understand. :-|

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 04, 2019 12:28 pm 
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You can, but I wouldn't recommend it. If you have a machine running with windows 7 at the moment try out a Linux distribution in Virtual box - I highly recommend Ubuntu and Linux Mint if you are a beginner as there are loads of tutorials and they are really well supported.

It is also dependent on what you want to do. Linux does more or less anything a windows machine can do, if not more but is limited in certain ways (like iTunes, but who needs that :wink: ..).

Here is a reasonably good tutorial.. However from past experience, I will always run 1 PC and 1 operating system as I have lost too many Windows installs due to a Linux boot loader issue after updates (GRUB, GRUB2)..

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 04, 2019 7:04 pm 
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I would tend to agree - I haven't played around with at-home Linux distros in many many years, but all too often when I used to I ended up reloading operating systems way too often.

They just didn't like sharing bootloaders...glad to see some thing just never change. :lol:

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Is there a way to put the two OS on separate hard drives? Would that take care of having to reinstall the OS?

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Even then I would physically keep them separated, connect one or the other, not both at the same time...

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just get two of the exact same drives - install OS on first, unplug, plug in second, install second OS on second.

plug in the one you want to use, boot, easy-peasy.

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Sound like good advice to me. Thanks folks. 8)

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That's what I have done in the past. I have a PC with an external SATA port which makes it dead easy to swap drives. Windows is on a 240Gb SSD (minimum size I would recommend for windows) and everything I download is either stored on a NAS or I have 3 1Tb drives for it too in the system. Then when I want to use Linux I can switch off the PC remove the windows SSD and replace it with a Linux drive (8Gb, 16Gb or 32Gb SSD nowadays).

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Be careful with your Windows 7.
The DVD only installs in BIOS mode, and converts any gpt drive to MBR (incorrectly) and you lose all your data.
Make sure you have good backups.

Not sure if Windows 7 is even aware of NVMe drives, you may only be able to use Windows 10 that would have the newest drivers.
Microsoft did not want vendors of any new/different hardware to create drivers for older versions of Windows. Some are created as very large users still wanted Windows 7 to work.

You really need to convert the Windows 7 installer to UEFI, by copying to flash drive and moving some files around to make it UEFI bootable.
How to Create a Bootable UEFI USB Flash Drive for Installing Windows 7, Windows 8, or Windows 8.1 - Also command line install of files to efi partition uses rufus
http://www.eightforums.com/tutorials...e-windows.html
You cannot use the Win7 DVD in UEFI mode, you need to use BIOS mode or modify to USB with UEFI.
Convert Windows 7 install to UEFI This user said he need the repair/recovery from his Windows 8 to convert Windows 7
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2304736

With UEFI you also have an UEFI boot menu to directly boot Windows or Ubuntu.
And from grub menu you can boot other systems installed in the same boot mode.

Definitions & links to full pages of explanation of terms like UEFI are at end of the UEFI install links in link in my signature.


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